arob Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 8 hours ago, arob said: not really a big fan of him ..but i have to agree with him .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted September 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 A few drivers have said the Next-Gen car doesn't cushion crashes like the old car did. Quite a few have said after a crash it was the hardest hit they have taken more this year than in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King237 Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 Remember when they crashed in the past and all that Styrofoam came out from the side doors? Now they crash and nothing comes out? I learned just night on RaceHub that only the Fords are catching on fire....I wasn't aware of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 It all started with the 70's Pinto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, rebelracewriter said: It all started with the 70's Pinto do u know why those cars burned up like that .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 hours ago, HiTech said: WIERD how an explosive car became a great little racecar Many folks asked us why we raced those cars .. Seeing the history ,,those cars got a bad rap with fords bad design.. the tanks two strap bolts behnd the bumper were aimed right at the tank . did not take much of a rear inpack to force them into the tank they fixed that issue i think 1977 models .the mustang two if u wanted to call it a mustang had the same issue .... we ended up with about 35plus of those pinto's over the 80s and 90s last one we built was somehwere around 08or so and its still round ... nick once told me probably the first little car that ford built had the best front suspention for racing ..the mustang two suspention that are sold for hot rods . was the pintos design .. they just would not call it pinto for reasons we know .. .. if u have a pinto laying around that could be rebuilt let me . i want to put one back on the streets modified .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King237 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 it took decades to get the old car to were it was. It funny how people except the new car to be perfect out of the gate. they will work out the issues with the cars in time as the always do. also the teams have a lot more influence on these new cars that people want to believe. there are several parts that the teams and change or rebuild (like the steering racks). also the teams had and have a say so in where the parts come from. its not nascar making all the decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I'm glad they hate it, if Logano, Hamlin, etc were winning all the races people would call it boring. The 3, 43 and 17 cars are winners. This cars should be called the Equalizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 9/20/2022 at 6:30 PM, RodneyRodriguez said: I'm glad they hate it, if Logano, Hamlin, etc were winning all the races people would call it boring. The 3, 43 and 17 cars are winners. This cars should be called the Equalizer. While I'm happy to see a more even playing field, that doesn't make the kit-car credible. On 9/20/2022 at 6:25 PM, Nathan said: it took decades to get the old car to were it was. It funny how people except the new car to be perfect out of the gate. they will work out the issues with the cars in time as the always do. also the teams have a lot more influence on these new cars that people want to believe. there are several parts that the teams and change or rebuild (like the steering racks). also the teams had and have a say so in where the parts come from. its not nascar making all the decisions. Then they should have refined it more before FORCING teams to use it......Just like the MANDATED rev limiter and gear ratios......Though I'm sure happy about those results.🤣...And, ummmm, yes NA$CAR IS making all the decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 they didn't force anything. I heard numerous interviews from owners that have said they asked for this car. same with numerous interviews from nascar. listen to Justin marks. he will tell you all you need to know about the decision being made and how this car is the only reason that he and micheal jordan have teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 SPONSOR OR LACK OF PLAYED ALOT IN THIS .. .. THE cost was getting way out of hand . teams and owners had to find something to save a buck or two just to even get a sponsors .. . + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rails Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 There is nothing cheap about this car, and there never will be. These teams are putting these cars together with clenched fist becaus they see ways to make it so much better but can't touch the parts. Reb is right, NASCAR is running the show, and it shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 ok you can believe what you want. I just don't understand why we care about the cost. we don't pay for it. Justin Marks will tell you different on the cost. also the can put them together with " clenched fist" all they want but if the teams were making the parts they would cost double to triple the price. Also this is NASCAR show. it is NASCAR cup series not team "what ever" series. Nascar mandates the rules no different than IMCA, USRA, NHRA, IRL, F1 or any of the other Sanctioning body that exist. So yes its their rules. its the same in Xfinity and Truck. Those 2 can't just do what they want. they have to do what's in the rules. If the teams don't want to put together these "kit cars" they don't have to. the can go be part of a different series. Most teams were upset when they pushed the roll out of the new car back a year because they had set their budgets for the next year and had to redo them because it cost more to run the old car. I heard that from live interviews from several executives from different teams ( RCR,JGR, Hendrick). Every part that they used to produce for the old car had to be approved. So give me a break that NASCAR just now is calling the shots. Apparently there are things that the teams can do. Most of the steering issues at Bristol were on toyotas. most of the tire issues were on fords. yes there were some others but they weren't the majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 He said that Toyota has been dealing with stability issues with their engines when its drivers hit the NASCAR-mandated rev limiter. NASCAR's mandated gear ratios have been a test for teams and drivers throughout the 2022 season with the new Cup Series car. https://sports.yahoo.com/toyota-president-kyle-buschs-darlington-and-bristol-engine-problems-had-something-in-common-144125691.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 "single source parts".....How much uproar is there, still, about a silly "sticker" on local racing parts? https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2021/05/05/vendors-parts-suppliers-list-next-gen-car/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Like spec shocks and stuff. One tire a week rules lol Edited September 22, 2022 by RodneyRodriguez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Just about every car is under a set of rules or a sanctioning body. Nascar is no different. If the teams don't like it they don't have compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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