racecar25 Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 BROOKLYN, Mich. - The Nos. 18 and 20 Nationwide Series teams of Joe Gibbs Racing - which have dominated competition in the series most of the season - could face serious sanctions after NASCAR officials said late Saturday the teams had attempted to alter the outcome of a chassis dyno test. After Saturday's Nationwide race at Michigan International Speedway, NASCAR tested several cars on the chassis dynamometer, which measures rear-wheel horsepower, as officials have done several times this season. During the test, NASCAR officials discovered magnets on the accelerator pedals of the two Gibbs Toyotas. Several sources said the magnets could, in theory, keep the pedals from being fully depressed, which would limit the engines' output and distort the data available to officials. "This was an attempt to interfere with NASCAR's post-race inspection process, and we are taking it very seriously," said Jim Hunter, vice president of corporate communications for the sanctioning body. Hunter would not go into detail about what NASCAR officials found, but said both teams faced penalties, which would be announced early next week. No action would be taken at the track this weekend, he said. Reached Saturday night, JGR team spokesperson Mike Arning said team officials felt that they were adhering to the rules laid out by NASCAR with the cars entered in Saturday's race. Last month, NASCAR announced rule changes for the Toyota engines used in the Nationwide Series. The new guidelines were intended to cut about 15 horsepower. Saturday's race at Michigan was the first since that change in which horsepower was expected to play a larger role in performance and the race outcome. The previous three events were on a short track and two road courses. So far this season, JGR's No. 18 and No. 20 Toyotas have combined for 13 wins in 25 races, with the most recent Kyle Busch's victory at O'Reilly Raceway Park in Clermont, Ind., in late July. reprint or license Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 thats a sticky situation..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landlord Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I doubt there is a rule against having magnets on the pedals!!!!JGR knows their engines are powerfull and they intend to try and keep it that way!!!!!Can you blame them????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 My question is how did they get them in there after the race with nascar tech officals everywhere. if one of the crew guys where hanging upside down in the car wouldn't that raise some questions before the test. also how does nascar know that the magnets where not on the pedals during the race? just seems a little weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Putting magnets on the pedal during a race with the pole's the right way.. would allow a driver to rest his foot some while the magnets are stuck together..... Secrets of NA$CAR unleashed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 magnetic throttle stop,hell of a deal.wonder if you can set the resistance gap,like so many thousandts to lose a certain amount of hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfat Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 That's a great idea. The magnets are used as a spacer to stop the throttle from being fully depressed. Put em' in after the race and your legal. I think mine were in the car during the race and then when Someone else drives the car they take the magnets out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Just curious.....how much magnets jack with an MSD box???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 you figure if you have 2 magnets,like poles,one on the floor and one on the pedal.someone pressing the gas pedal gets the magnets close to each other, the magnets began repulsion,trying to push the two objects apart.it would give the foot the feeling of resistance,that the throttle is bottoming out if the magnets were strong enough.And as Big A said,if you had magnets of opposite poles,the magnets would stick and you'd be cruising on cruise control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Great idea to foil the dyno test. With the driver strapped in so tightly, I wonder how they got the magnet in place before the test. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Listening to the comments from JD, I'm guessing there will be an opening on the JGR crew.....immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonestar88 Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Great idea to foil the dyno test. With the driver strapped in so tightly, I wonder how they got the magnet in place before the test. Nick Kinda thinking the same thing Nick, do they have a heat shield type pad on the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Somewhere up there Smokey Yunich has a big smile across his face. Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakdad Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Looks like another race on today.........I'm looking for a good movie...Maybe a Clint Eastwood Shoot'em up. Prolly have to find a double feature to cover the race............................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 little league world series is pretty neat to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETrott Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Looks like another race on today.........I'm looking for a good movie...Maybe a Clint Eastwood Shoot'em up. Prolly have to find a double feature to cover the race............................ Don't be that way Jim! You know that everything is on the yup and yup! Especially wayup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey19 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 Very simple punishment solution - Since they wanted to place the magnets to batch the dyno test they should make them run each and every race from this point forward with the magnets in place! They cannot be removed - See how their performance is then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jracer98 Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 that's greatness...LOL Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacecar Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) Actually the slanted throttle blade improves fuel mileage on the Toyota that has a smaller restrictor plate. Competitive advantage..... Does the rule book say that the throttle has to open all the way? Edited August 19, 2008 by Pacecar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINGERBREADMAN Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) magnets probably added the night before the race, by a roush crew member , to slow them down...jmo Edited August 20, 2008 by GINGERBREADMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neon14 Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 magnets probably added the night before the race, by a roush crew member , to slow them down...jmo you know I thought about what you said. what if they were added by a disgruntled employee just to slow them down alittle bit. you never know. it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakdad Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 you know I thought about what you said. what if they were added by a disgruntled employee just to slow them down alittle bit. you never know. it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBELRACER Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/natio...tory?id=3544268 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 Well since someone else brought up the Roush conspiracy theory........ Let's see, they(NA$CAR) fine the Gibbs team 50K(each) for something someone did intentionally, but Roush got fined 100K for the infamous Carl Edwards oil tank cover incident, which wasn't intentional....... SOUNDS FAIR TO ME!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 they should all play fair like Hendricks...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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