speed demon 7 Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Sorry, the goodyear strike caused the shortage in the 10", not the 8". I only bought 2 sets of tires last season, and I can run 5 of those tires even more, after 13 races. My mistake on the Shortage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted December 21, 2007 Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Seems like last year there was a supply problem. With the increase in demand, just want to make sure that the tires will be available. There has never been a supply shortage of 8” Goodyear tires at HMP. HMP has always maintained adequate inventory to have stagger options available. In addition, HMP has always made its entire inventory available, at cost, to THR for all races. To make it even more convenient and financially viable, HMP supplied the tires with no upfront cost and only requested payment for the tires that were actually sold. In addition, all unsold stock could be and has been returned free of charge. Often times, Graham even made the arrangements with racers to get the tires delivered to THR. However, HMP admits that it cannot control the supply requests from the THR supplier nor can HMP control the quantity that they maintain on hand. If a shortage at THR ever occurred, it would have only taken a simple phone call to make arrangements to get additional tires, to meet demands, sent to THR. Really??? Never a shortage last year?? Then why I called both tracks last year I couldn't get any tires?? No saying it was the tracks fault, but try not to make statements that are not true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 i remember jerry saying he was having trouble getting tires at THR for trucks and mods at one time. and alot of truck and mod guys were pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landlord Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 I was at almost all HMP races last year and I don't remember hearing of any shortage,there is an awsome supply of tires for the LMs for sure(hopfully we can get our yellow letters back) and I don't see how ayone can get their tires illegaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston Motorsports Park Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Really??? Never a shortage last year?? Then why I called both tracks last year I couldn't get any tires?? No saying it was the tracks fault, but try not to make statements that are not true! Marc, you never spoke to Graham about tires because WE NEVER HAD A SHORTAGE AT HMP. Let me say it again, WE NEVER HAD A SHORTAGE OF THE 8" TIRE AT HMP. Who did you call at HMP to inqiure about tires? It certainly was not Graham and he is the only one that handles tire orders. We do not make any statements that we cannot back up with facts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 i called houston right before kyle last race i was told they could not send me any becausethey had to save the tires for the houston race.i finely got 4 from irvin but these are pretty hard.that is the truth...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston Motorsports Park Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 i called houston right before kyle last race i was told they could not send me any becausethey had to save the tires for the houston race.i finely got 4 from irvin but these are pretty hard.that is the truth...... I have spoken to Graham and he stated we never held back on tires for any races at Kyle and he never told anyone he could not supply them with tires. Also, if it was for the last race at Kyle as you state, the THR supplier returned approximately twenty 8" tires to HMP at the end of the season. Not disputing the fact that you purchased the tires from Ervin (Oval Components) but there were definitely tires available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 its funny how quickly a thread with a simple question about what tires we want to run at kyle turned into a he said they said debate. sorry this happened mary ann. hope you got the info you nedded to make a final decision about the tire (970). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landlord Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 HMP stocks ALOT of tires,it would be hard for me to believe that there was any kind of a shortage.You guys always seem to be against Houston,instead of everyone working against oneanother we should be working together.Graham loves racing and is an accomplished racer himself,he listens to his drivers and does the best he can.I think it's fantastic that him and Mary Ann are working together and you guys should be too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 its funny how quickly a thread with a simple question about what tires we want to run at kyle turned into a he said they said debate. sorry this happened mary ann. hope you got the info you nedded to make a final decision about the tire (970). Agreed. Heck, I'm sorry I asked the question. I just wanted to make sure that the supply would be there for the increased demand. I sure didn't mean to start an attack on Graham or HMP. If the tires will be available, all is good, no matter what the brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 well it seems that all have been said or stated. Good luck Mary Ann and the THR staff with the decisions you are about to make. either way we are still behind the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STREET02 Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 Still have yet to see the reason the 970's are getting the boot? Does anyone know why the 970's no longer seem to be a choice for 2008 at THR ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 26, 2007 Report Share Posted December 26, 2007 the only reason we have been given is that they decided to go to the f53s to have more selection and ease of ordering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 Rules posted and all tires except Grand Stock are F53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landlord Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 So what about all the Goodyear votes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 27, 2007 Report Share Posted December 27, 2007 this pole is open until Jan. 1 so even thought the rules say F53 it may change. I quess that we just have to wait until Mary Ann comes out with a ruling. the rules on the website is pretty much exactly what they gave us at the drivers meeting with a few changes. on edit: I do wish that Mary ann would just let us know what tire we are going to so we can start getting tires. this thread has gone from a pole to just discussion because everyone has pretty much given their vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 I emailed jack he said they have not made a decision on the tires yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 poll is still open, I'm sure they are weighing many options before they decide and get bombardered by all of us. Whatever is decided, what we need to remember is that this is a make or break season in Kyle, if we fail, next year we are going to have a lot more concerns than what tire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 No matter what tire is chosen, the following is what most Midwest and NE tracks do to keep costs down: B. TIRE ALLOCATION- (1) The following tire allocation procedures are mandatory. (a) All tires used in competition must be purchased from the speedway. ( Tires will be sold on race nights only except for a drivers initial tire invent ory. Every driver will have a tire inventory, identified by identification number, which they will use for all competition. Tires will be allocated for the driver , not the car. (d) All tires will be identified by a unique identification number approved by t rack officials. (e) All drivers will have an initial tire allocation of eight (8) tires to start the season. (f) Each driver will have an additional weekly allocation of one (1) tire, start ing the second week of competition. (g) Drivers may purchase their allocation for the following week after signing i n at registration. (h) Drivers may purchase tires for practice purposes only, but such tires will n ot be permitted for use in competition. (i) Any driver wishing to use up tires left over from last season may do so, how ever, the tires must be registered with track officials and have registration numbers applied and recorded to that driver’s inventory. (j) The track may, from time to time, authorize the purchase of additional tires for all drivers. A driver may only race on tires registered to their own inven t ory. (k) If a driver ruins a tire during hot laps, heat races, or qualifying events, that tire may be replaced, at the discretion of the track officials, provided it has not been used in any previous event. Tires will not be replaced after the start of the feature event, or on the following week. (l) If a driver purchases or registers their next week’s allocation and fails to compete in the featured event, that driver will not be able to register their weekly allocation at their next a ppearance. In the event of a rainout prior to the start of the feature event, b u t after the tires have been purchased or registered, there will beno allocation f or that night. (m) Any driver that competes in a race with tires that are not registered to the ir inventory will be disqualified from the event and forfeit all points and purs e monies for the event. Any driver caught trying to alter, duplicate, or in any other way circumvent the intent of the tire rules, will be severely penalized. (n) A driver may not sell their tires to other competitor’s for use during compe tition. C. TIRE DECLARATION – (1) Each driver must declare, to track officials in writing, the tires that they will be running prior to any heat races or feature events. (2) Failure to declare such tires or failure to compete on declared tires will r esult in disqualification, loss of points, and loss of purse money for the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modracer Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 In my opinion tire allocations really dont work. Why not try and sniff and durometer them. Seems to work in Pensacola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersracing Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 In my opinion tire allocations really dont work. Why not try and sniff and durometer them. Seems to work in Pensacola. 10/4 i have seen alot of tire swaping at thr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 ok good buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Actually, tire allocation did work quite well at SAS under NASCAR LMS rules. In fact, I think Nick might have been in charge of that or at least he was there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I don't think we will see a tire allocation due to the fact that the track needs to sell tire for the bottoms line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 I don't think we will see a tire allocation due to the fact that the track needs to sell tire for the bottoms line. hray - you are correct. That rule was implemented under my direction at SAS after a rather detailed tire test session... Nathan - You may not believe this, but SAS actually sold more tires using the "one-tire-a-week" rule. Instead of 3 teams buying 4, all the teams bought one. Running takes offs was a thing of the past... Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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