Mary Ann Naumann Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Thunderhill Raceway Racers, We do listen... So, I am going to open a poll to hear from you, the drivers or car owners of THR Thunder Stocks and A-Line Super Stocks. Please indicate your choice of running the Hoosier F53 or the Goodyear G24 (same as Pro Modifieds and Pro Trucks). The 2008 price for the F53 is $124 including tax; the price for the G24 is $108 including tax. (The lower Goodyear price is available through a long-term contract established by Houston Motorsports Park. The price could increase substantially in 2009 when the contract expires.) We will gather the votes from this thread and call or email the drivers that do not respond in order to get as much input from all involved. All responses (votes) must indicate the THR class, car number and true name. One vote per car. You must be a 2007 and/or 2008 registered THR TS or SS. If you prefer to not post publicly you may email me @ maluvsracing@aol.com. This does not affect the TSRS Late Models; they will remain on the Hoosier F53. The THR Management Team will make a final decision on the tire choice. This poll will be open until January 1st. Thank you for your time. We appreciate each and everyone that has contacted us, as your input is very important to us. More importantly, we appreciate the manner in which you each approached us. Merry Christmas to each of you and your families. It is going to be a great 08! Sincerely, Mary Ann Naumann and THR 08 Management Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landlord Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 If you put TSRS cars on them then they can sell their take offs to lower classes saving everyone money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I'll have to talk to the rest of our team before voting, but I'm dissapointed to see that TSRS can't be on the same tire as everyone else. This will likely play a major part in our vote. When you're running 2 cars, it sure helps to have them on the same tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ann Naumann Posted December 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 If you put TSRS cars on them then they can sell their take offs to lower classes saving everyone money!! Thanks for the input! Just a polite FYI... TSRS tires will not be changing, we originally were changing THR TS & SS to the F53s like TSRS for their pull offs, which is still an option or pull offs from Pro Mod and Trucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfat Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Good Year #12 Thunder Stock, Jody Wayne Stuart (Owner) Brandon Brown (Driver) Good Year #12 Street Stock, Melinda Helton (Owner) Jody Wayne Stuart (Driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 SS #99, Stapp - Hoosier F53. Sorry guys, it just doesnt' make sense to try and run 2 cars on different rubber. It would be different if TSRS was part of the deal. I understand that TSRS is probably under contractual obligations with Hoosier, so I don't blame the series for holding firm on their selection. It's just the way it goes. Mary Ann, thanks for asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGural Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 If there is a contractual obligation between Hooiser and TSRS, wouldn't they accept a change to the 970s? Don't understand...why it would matter to them which tire you purchase??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 If there is a contractual obligation between Hooiser and TSRS, wouldn't they accept a change to the 970s? Don't understand...why it would matter to them which tire you purchase??? That would be great. I'd definately change our vote if that were the case, but I figured the 970 was not on the table for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Goodyear - #50 Thunder Stock Aaron Brungot Driver & Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny66 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 GOODYEAR - Leonard Flores III Driver/ Owner #66 Thunder Stock GOODYEAR - Leonard Flores III Driver/ Owner #66 Thunder Stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 OK, I'm a mod but here is my mine: Thunder Stock & Super Stock - 970's TSRS - F53's Pro-Mods - F53's for engine ruled cars - 970's on open motor cars (weight & left% the same for both) Pro-Trucks - F53's or 970's (need some feedback from the trucks?) This way it is an all Hoosier track (help from Hoosier Tires Southwest/Smiley's, i.e. kickback on sales, point fund, free tire, etc...) with plenty of take offs of 970's & F53's Does THR need to be under contract with HMP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I'm trying to figure how we wound up going to the F53, which was ok, then everyone wanted to save money and keep the 970 but we've somehow wound up with the Goodyear becoming the option. In that case we should just keep the 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Is there a significant speed pickup when bolting on 4 new Goodyears in place of 2 week old Goodyears? I know the F53's will have a substantial speed pickup new vs. 2 wk old. What about the 970's? Thanks, Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I'm trying to figure how we wound up going to the F53, which was ok, then everyone wanted to save money and keep the 970 but we've somehow wound up with the Goodyear becoming the option. In that case we should just keep the 970. I'm guessing the 970 was never an option...or so it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemdk Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 My understanding is that the hoosier is not an option for the truck/mod guys since we're running 1 or maybe 2 other tracks that are goodyear tracks and I know that I sure don't want to have to run 2 seperate tires, that's why the message from Mary-Ann stated TS & SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Is there a significant speed pickup when bolting on 4 new Goodyears in place of 2 week old Goodyears? I know the F53's will have a substantial speed pickup new vs. 2 wk old. What about the 970's? Thanks, Mel Nick has talked about the Goodyear being durable and repeatable after several heat cycles. That has been my experience with the 970 as well. We see very little drop in lap times from race 1 to race 3 or 4 with the 970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waddy Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 let's toss this around, if we use the 53 and TRS uses 53's, doesn't that allow Jerry to stock more sizes and more tires in general? Goodyear may be less but MA says there that the cost could go up. Food for thought.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Is there a significant speed pickup when bolting on 4 new Goodyears in place of 2 week old Goodyears? I know the F53's will have a substantial speed pickup new vs. 2 wk old. What about the 970's? Thanks, Mel Nick has talked about the Goodyear being durable and repeatable after several heat cycles. That has been my experience with the 970 as well. We see very little drop in lap times from race 1 to race 3 or 4 with the 970s. Mel and Chase, I have worked with both the Goodyears (last season) and the 970s (over several seasons) at both THR and HMP. I can assure you that the Goodyear is far more repeatable and somewhat more durable than the 970s in all cases. I am attempting to leave any politics out of this, but I would feel badly if I did not share what I know to be true both HMP and THR. The other factor is that the Goodyears are not at their fastest until they have several solid heat cycles in them. So it really doesn't do anyone any good to go out and buy new tires every week since the old tires are actually faster than the new ones! And, the times do not drop off over many, many heat cycles. But, be warned! When the Goodyears do drop off it's dramatic. You won't have to guess when it's time to bolt on different rubber.. LOL. I can fully understand and appreciate why a track would choose to honor whatever financial/contractual agreements they have with a particular tire vendor and am not suggesting that if such arrangements are in place that they should be broken. But strictly from the suspension engineering standpoint, the Goodyears are a much better choice than the 970s in all departments except, perhaps, that they a tenth or two slower when compared to the 970s very best laps. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 If given a choice I must vote for the Goodyear but, we'll run the 53's if that is the track's preference. Super Stock #32 owner: Mel Krauss, Driver: Levi Krauss (2008 registered) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt5858 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Goodyear!!!!! Matthew Hodge #58 THR Super Stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 whichever is fine, Goodyear or F53 Hoosier. Rodney Rodriguez #7 Super Stock Driver/Tri-Owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Garrett Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 F-53 Leave the rulu the way it is, dont go to the goodyear tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeks24 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 f 53s Todd Weeks driver owner #27 thunderstock 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer82 Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 F-53=Dwayne Markgraf#82 super stock. again thanks for asking MARY ANN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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