arob Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Well Texana Raceway Park and the racers that participated lived up to expectations! Great show and , get this , with all the racing going on the races were done around 10:30 BOTH nights! Now it moves on to South Texas Speedway for the Jerry Whiteaker Memorial Dec10 &11 with practice on Dec 9. This time the Sportmods will be racing for$5000 to win with Factory Stocks going for $2000 to win. Friday night STS Pure Stocks and E-Mods will be in support. Going to be a great show to end the 2021 racing season in South Texas. See South Texas Speedway Facebook for details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 The Jerry Whiteaker Memorial should draw a lot of interest and a lot of cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, NickHolt said: The Jerry Whiteaker Memorial should draw a lot of interest and a lot of cars! it does nick .. the only thing that hurts is the weather hope its a good weather weekend ..talk to your sonĀ see if he can work something outĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 Considering that SOS is for sale I hope they have a big show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted November 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 I forgot to mention the announcing at the Clash was top notch. Well done Mr. Rodriguez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 I'm pretty sure someone will come in and keep STS going but yes should be a good show and hopefully that other factor will not be an issue. Someone just make sure to plan a golf outing with Alan that weekend.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 AROB thanks my man always great to get to TRP. Totally agree this is a great time for STS to shine esp with the sale situation stay tuned here and RUSS etc we will let you know everything happening with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 12 hours ago, top_shelf_12 said: I'm pretty sure someone will come in and keep STS going but yes should be a good show and hopefully that other factor will not be an issue. Someone just make sure to plan a golf outing with Alan that weekend.Ā Ā looks like it is for sale and no leasing .someone has to buy it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted November 24, 2021 Report Share Posted November 24, 2021 I love racing in Corpus. I've said it before to me that's a hotbed for racing in my opinion there are enough teams there to be able to support racing often.Ā Other parts of the state teams have to travel a long way to get to their tracks CC just is a racing town always has been it has a lot of feel like those areas along the SE gulf coast. Hoping to keep the place going! Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBum Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 If someone was to stepĀ up to the pump &Ā buyĀ South Texas Speedway ... would it be be more successful as a dirt track ... orĀ a new asphalt track? Ā Vote 1 for dirt Vote 2 for asphalt Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Without a doubt dirt. Asphalt could never match the car counts or excitement dirt does. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 ...would be what saves Texas pavement racing once and for all. Destination spot with beaches and fun for people to come to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 It had been successful as a dirt track.Ā My vote is leave it dirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBum Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) I concurĀ Rodney.Ā Asphalt would be the hotter ticket in the long run.Ā From my experience, it's a stronger draw inĀ a tourism market.Ā Folks love to see what isn't happening in their own backyard.Ā If promoted correctly ...Ā the local fans would also jump all over it. The key would be attractingĀ a strong car count? ### 2 dirt 2 asphalt -lol- Edited November 27, 2021 by BeachBum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesHigdon Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 We used to plan family vacations to Corpus around CCSās schedule; Corpus would be a great market for it second to MAYBE only somewhere between SA and Austin. Look at the AsphaltĀ tracks doing big things now; theyāre all in destination markets with ample infrastructure for big shows. Ā Vote 2 for Asphalt.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 One track will not save asphalt racing in texas.Ā "Asphalt racing" need to change the way they operate to save teams money.Ā There are several "asphalt racers"Ā that have converted to dirt and will explain the money and time savings.Ā Plus the capital investment that it will take to convert STS to asphalt will cost double the purchase price of the track.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Nathan said: One track will not save asphalt racing in texas.Ā "Asphalt racing" need to change the way they operate to save teams money.Ā There are several "asphalt racers"Ā that have converted to dirt and will explain the money and time savings.Ā Plus the capital investment that it will take to convert STS to asphalt will cost double the purchase price of the track.Ā Ā if you are racing factory stocks nowĀ buying racing shocks 5000 plus motors and such likeĀ Ā special chassisĀ .. it isnt cheaperĀ Ā travelingĀ Ā still cost alotĀ just entering a carĀ each night cost per car . . i travel with the car most of the time and havent saved a dime to go . my son sold his out the only thing left is the motor and trans and trailer .. .why becauseĀ Ā it was going to cost to much to runĀ ... ..racing all the way around is costing to much now .the toys are not cheap . Edited November 28, 2021 by HiTech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 I'll clarify, one track will revive pavement racing. One that can operate often and have stability.Ā Houston's bread and butter is the straight line the oval is a bonus if needed, which it isn't. Self-standing paved track in Corpus would be my answer. Have a good stock car class, bomber, and 4 cylinder class and let the others fall in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted November 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 I'll put it this way. If STS was paved I would be making a lot of trips to I-37 and Texana.I grew up at CCS and SAS and it was great. But dirt is it for me now. Racing is simply much better. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 If STS was paved I'd probably have an apartment in Corpus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBum Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) On 11/27/2021 at 4:10 PM, RodneyRodriguez said: 2 ...would be what saves Texas pavement racing once and for all. Destination spot with beaches and fun for people to come to. Ā 3 hours ago, RodneyRodriguez said: If STS was paved I'd probably have an apartment in Corpus. If the local dirt track racers refuse to supportĀ an asphalt venueĀ ... then make it a special event facilityĀ &Ā bring in some asphalt touring shows.Ā I think the regionalĀ CC & tourism market would eat it up.Ā AnĀ asphalt facilityĀ would be a feasibleĀ gamble.Ā Might beĀ the "last" best shot at saving short track motorsportĀ in our neck of the woods. Edited November 28, 2021 by BeachBum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted November 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) If STS became asphalt I would go check it out depending on classes, format and car count. Ā Ā Ā Edited November 28, 2021 by arob add a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 hours ago, BeachBum said: Ā If the local dirt track racers refuse to supportĀ an asphalt venueĀ ... then make it a special event facilityĀ &Ā bring in some asphalt touring shows.Ā I think the regionalĀ CC & tourism market would eat it up.Ā AnĀ asphalt facilityĀ would be a feasibleĀ gamble.Ā Might beĀ the "last" best shot at saving short track motorsportĀ in our neck of the woods. Ā ALOT of the asphalt drivers left to go dirt racing it was cheaper thenĀ but mainly i think track managers were one bigĀ issue ..Ā Ā had kyle stayed open we would still have least one asphaltĀ car if not more ..i grew with blacktop in my blood and still have it .but the cars nowĀ are dirtĀ set ups and so on . hmp at one time talked about haveing a factory stockĀ raceĀ there .and we were for it ready and willingĀ but that never happened .and if they want to have one we would show up no problem .i think it would be fun as heckĀ Ā watching those drivers hang onto a car built for dirt .as for arobĀ you would show up if there was some great racing going on .. admit it ..you loveĀ great racingĀ just like the rest of us . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.brown11 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 I like Mr Higdon's idea, but with a little twist on it. I know that some (Nick) wouldn't like it though. How about a nice 3/8 mile, progressive banking asphalt track on the grounds at COTA? Got to be progressive banking, no follow the leader, or running over each other racing. Great side by side racing is very fun, and you sure tear up a lot less cars when you don't have to wreck someone to pass.Ā Almost all freeway miles from OK, Houston, Dallas, SA, Laredo, El Paso,Ā and not too many backroads from Corpus. I bet you could draw some from Mobile and Pensacola too. Especially if you run some Super Late models. Because it's already a racetrack, permits shouldn't be an issue. All the basic infrastructure is there.Ā Who knows, maybe they could negotiate 1 race a season on the big track, a la Texas World Speedway. It would also make a great prelim for a cup weekend.Ā But we all know the reality of it. Whoever wants to do this (or any asphalt track), must have deep pockets to start, and be willing to not see a profit for at least 3 years. I personally don't know anybody with those kind of pockets. However, I really believe that if something could be worked out to partner with COTA, maybe just maybe, it would take only 2 years to break even. I'm also pretty sure that COTA would like to have another revenue stream too.Ā I know that it's not worth 2 cents, but that's the best bet I see to having another asphalt track in the heart of Texas. I'd love to work on that project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted November 29, 2021 Report Share Posted November 29, 2021 As a lifelong resident of Corpus Christi (and the first half plus of my life spent admiring asphalt racing across Texas) I can almost assure you asphalt in CC will not be the saving grace. If asphalt is/was so strong in CC, why is CCS a wrecker yard now? SAS was dearly loved, had great promoters, yet sits in the decrepit state it's in. The last few years at CCS were dismal and hasn't been successful since Owen ran it. I don't think the city would support asphalt again and to convert STS to asphalt probably wouldn't be cost effective and to wait on those asphalt guys to come back. STS is a dirt track, should stay a dirt track and if it's the city is the reason to support racing, CC isn't the city to save asphalt racing. I hope Houston can keep it going because I don't want this to sound like an attack on the asphalt side but CC/STS isn't the savior. Even with people promoting STS that may or may not have been well liked, it's still viable as a dirt track, plus the proximity with TRP and I37 is helpful, especially when they work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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