broc56 Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 I recently discovered a few tricks that are being used to cheat in the sport mod class that may help the tech guys in the future; 1) The use of 113 oxygenated fuel. 2) 16 volt batteries. 3) Taking 60 lbs of welding wire and wrapping the inside of the left real wheel to hide un-sprung weight. The cars that I have seen using these tricks have won heat or feature races this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Go have a talk with the tech person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Yea I guess they need to do a better job teching carbs too lol . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidejob Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) About all that 16 volts does on an HEI is extend RPM potential...as coil saturation time is dependent on voltage. That is, more voltage = less time to charge coil = higher RPM potential. A stock HEI, in good condition, will function adequately to 7,000 rpm. So, 6,200 for a stock HEI shouldn’t be a problem The increase in spark energy is all but negligible. In other words, there is no HP advantage to 16V. The cylinder either fires, or it doesn’t...there is no magic. If your HEI isn’t misfiring...you will NOT make more power by adding voltage. Again, you will simply extend RPM capability of the ignition. 16V would be useful if you wanted to turn 7,000+. All that being said. Yes it is illegal for Sport Mod!! I am not arguing that point. Just stating it should not be a performance advantage in a 6,200 rpm limited class. However, per Sport Mod rules, OEM alternators with internal regulators are allowed. If you want a legal 16v (or 17v or 18v) ignition...you can run an alternator...very easy to achieve these voltages with OEM type setup. Edited December 8, 2019 by slidejob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin11a Posted December 8, 2019 Report Share Posted December 8, 2019 How about that lower ball joint placement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotatim Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Cool thread man, we can figure out other ways to cheat now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Don't tech em too hard car counts are good lol jus kitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotatim Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 Now the sport mods will start putting titanium brake parts. LOL I see that class costing as much as a late model soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 It's been years since this class was affordable. If IMCA they have to run 7.5 gm rearends. To buy one built with bracing and the gear you want they are 1,250.00 from rhino. And if you want to run multiple tracks you have to have either multiple rearends or transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Quote I see that class costing as much as a late model soon Well I'll be damned....Pigs must be flying somewhere....Timmy and I actually agree on something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 well speedway owns a bunch of imca.so every time there is a new product you can run speedway is banking. oh yea they own afco too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cperry115 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) well Broc's probably a little upset cause he was told he couldn't attend the SOUTH TEXAS SHOOTOUT, I mean this post is timed perfect with him becoming aware I'm told. anyway the sport mods were teched very well this past weekend Friday night top 2 from every heat hit the TECH pad and had weight and carbs checked second round rear deck height's and weight top 8 in passing point from Friday (qualifiers) had the following checked: compression remove carb spacer scope the intake runners remove headers scope the exhaust ports heads/ valves checked for angle milling re-check carbs 1 DQ FRIDAY FROM QUALIFIERS I was in top 8 I know this to be accurate, we did not finish top 5 Saturday but when I went to get paid 3:30 am heads and one piston removed from each top 5 finisher on the table in the Turn 5 Bar STS did an awesome job all weekend, from driver intros to race procedures to tech was a very well run/managed show thanks again for making it happen! some people just love sour grapes, been there! on edit: not saying there isn't cheating happening, just that the post seemed directed at a track/show and it was in fact heavily teched Edited December 11, 2019 by cperry115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 MY WIFE called and said the score keepers were not coming home soon they were moving the cars onto the bar area .. tech was going to take a while .. she got home around 3 am .. 12 hour day ..and many others longer .cant say sts wont tech .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I heard the tech guy was from Dallas area and is known for thorough tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 probably James Lopez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotatim Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 So are the Sport Mods are up to $30,000 now for a good new one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I DIDNT KNOW THE TECH MAN but the one who checked us was good at what he does ..HOW many tech man carry a wrench ….ready for work .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cperry115 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 JW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, toyotatim said: So are the Sport Mods are up to $30,000 now for a good new one? 15,000 to 20,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotatim Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I see used ones priced more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 15,000 to 20,000 for a limited modified roller 20,000 to 30,000 for a full modified roller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenley Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 I know of 2 engine builders here in San Antonio, that have recently built engines for 23,000 each, so how fast you wanna go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotatim Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, chenley said: I know of 2 engine builders here in San Antonio, that have recently built engines for 23,000 each, so how fast you wanna go. That is what I heard too. I was thinking that they are getting more like $35,000 and up for a turnkey sport mod. Now, lets start adding exotic metals and nice transmissions to these boys and we can get them over $40,000 by start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Man , the economy must be great because there seems to hundreds of them around just in Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nracer81 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 Just need to go back to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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