Stormin58 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 After being at the race and now watching the videos of it, it is more than clear something needs to change. What is everyones opinion to cure this rough driving- can't pass them so turn them mentality? This was one of the worst races ever at this track and multiple drivers are to blame. There has got to be a consequence for driving over the car in front of you. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 simple- QUIT TALKING ABOUT THE BLACK FLAG AND USE IT!!!! we can't police ourselves, and if we could it would look about the same as this race looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBSSS01 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I agree with Crazyhorse 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLovin Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 And I was thinking of going over their next year, but I heard drivers r stuffing each other in to the wall.Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 The super stock class is hardly ever like this one race was. If it was I would have moved on long ago. It was mentioned on another thread about the Spectacular being a points race...it probably shouldn't have been. Also the black flag should be used to curb rough driving. I wasn't racing and I didn't have my scanner. I know usually drivers will be warned over the scanner. Once again (my opinion) this was a bad race but it wasn't the way our class usually runs. I feel when next season begins we will be back to the good class we were before this race. I DO know that THR will be addressing this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevyfan Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 100 percent agree , use the black flag for what its for , stop it before it gets any further out of hand ...... period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 well, tough one for me but as a racer..... we have got to get the control back to the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Moving on to the offseason would be nice. Not much anybody can do at this point but hopefully next year things will be better and less stuff tore up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 our class been takin a dump all year. When u let the drivers take control>>> its in trouble. track should police, not anyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Simple... empower the flagman with the use of the black flag. Warn with Point & Told over radio... 2nd time Black Flag see pit steward lose how ever many laps as it takes to get the point... Â Change the rule.. involved in 2 cautions or 1 solo... combined with Simple... its called Rough driving... aka Recklessness looks like a good way to help the points fund! Â "Any Driver involved in an altercation on the track, such as throwing a helmet or steering wheel, making obscene gestures, recklessness or fighting may be subject to disqualification for the night and forfeit all purse money and can be fined of up to $500.00." Â I lost a championship because i raced a guy how he's raced us all year long... Fans saw me win, till the final results came out.. Wished that would happen to everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUNBUG Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 our class been takin a dump all year. When u let the drivers take control>>> its in trouble. track should police, not anyone else That is the problem, some tracks dont and wont police so that leaves it to the drivers to take care of business on the track. Not the way to do it. This is one of many reasons why car counts are down believe it or not. Its little and simple things like this that can be fixed within a matter of one man grabbing a black flag and putting it to use without breaking a sweat. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmodified Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 do they even HAVE a black flag? all drivers need to know and respect the flagman, and they need to know when and how to use one! this race was ridiculous and uncalled for! a lot of cars torn up for no reason! when did it become, "why drive around when i can go thru?" as for the drivers: why tear up a bunch of stuff when u can simply do it the "right way"? drivers need to have more respect, and the track needs a WHOLE lot more policing!! this was probably the worst race i've seen out there.. sad to say, but true.. JMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 not to sound like a Homer... but the all involved rule works. The dude that runs this site booted my ass off the track a few times for yellows. But the rule must be worked effectivally. Wreckin seems to be now called "racin"... thats a load of horseshit.... We've raced a long time with respect and now this is all another reason we are losin our sport.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUNBUG Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 not to sound likee a Homer... but the all involved rule works. The dude that runs this site booted my ass off the track a few times for yellows. But the rule must be worked effectivally. Wreckin seems to be now called "racin"... thats a load of horseshit.... We've raced a long time with respect and now this is all another reason we are losin our sport.. Rod, look what happend to the legacy's, that class has sadly gone under now do to disrespect and lack of a punishment. You can preach to drivers all you wont outside the track, you have to show you mean business with one wave of a flag on the track. So all the drivers that have up and left cant trust to have a clean race anymore or see a black flag being put to use. THR is a fun track to race at. Lets not loose the fun as that is what we are here for. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Thunderdome.....Two men walk in, one man walks out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Rodney, Â The thing of it is, I don't even remember who I booted. All I know is I caught a whole bunch of crap from a core group of drivers who didn't like going to the back when they brake-checked or pretended they go booted after a tiny rub. They wanted it their way and talked the track owner into firing my ass. Some of those guys are still racing at THR and you know who you are and so do I. Â Yes, I was known as "Nick the Prick" and for good reason. I didn't give one hoot who you were, if you wanted to drive dirty you drove somewhere else as long as I was calling things at SAS and later at THR. I used the black flag and I issued written warnings with consequences for repeated infractions. Was I popular? For sure I was not. But everyone hated me about the same so I figured I was being fair. Â Did I make mistakes? Of course I did. One night, as some of you might recall, I stood on the front straight at SAS with a mic and apologized to a team for blowing a call in a big way. Very embarrassing to say the least... Â I am not going to knock the track or the way they run the races because in the end, it's their track and how they manage things has been working for them for a number of years. To me, however, it boils down to a lack of respect for each other and for the track. Â And, no. I'm not volunteering. I've been tarred and feathered enough at SAS for three years, at THR for a year and on here for way too long... I don't have many friends left and I'll surely lose the rest if I got back into it. Â Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRfan Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 In my observation of the supers race(if we can call it that?) driver x was out to make sure driver y won the championship and was willing to do whatever he had to make that happen. Including take out half the cars on the track. I feel sorry for the guys from corpus that came up to race and have fun that were victims of that style of driving. Â Being in the drivers/spotters meeting for the mods trucks supers late models and hearing that that type of behavior wouldn't be tollerated and then it was, is what makes me upset about it. The officials need to back up their rules. And FYI I don't have any affiliation with any super stock team. My opinion of this particular event is strictly from a racing fan point of view with a little bit of behind the scene knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUNBUG Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 In my observation of the supers race(if we can call it that?) driver x was out to make sure driver y won the championship and was willing to do whatever he had to make that happen. Including take out half the cars on the track. I feel sorry for the guys from corpus that came up to race and have fun that were victims of that style of driving. Thats %100 what we saw. Thats sad. Real sad. But what do you do? Laugh a say, "Glad im not the X driver cause i would have to come up with some good answers". LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Whoa up folks... this is not about pointing fingers at driver x or driver y or driver a. This is about suggestions how to get the racing back under control. Â Thanks. Â Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 cc uses the flag ...supper stock drivers at cc .all get along ..that always helps keeping the bs off the track ....plus they help each other ...dont think they dont rough each other up some .but do it with respect and dont wipe out cars ..tps has the same typ of drivers ..they all get along purty good .. ..plus the all the involved rule helps that ...yet they don't really need it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Nick dont make me have to EDIT you. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Nick dont make me have to EDIT you. LOL Â Just ban me and get it over with, darn it! LOL Â Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 cc uses the flag ...supper stock drivers at cc .all get along ..that always helps keeping the bs off the track ....plus they help each other ...dont think they dont rough each other up some .but do it with respect and dont wipe out cars ..tps has the same typ of drivers ..they all get along purty good .. ..plus the all the involved rule helps that ...yet they don't really need it .. front runners are coming around ..they are getting along good ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 just do like the sprint series of texas spin and stop and cause a caution your done. I've been to four of there races now and they start 24 cars in the a main and of the 4 races there was only one caution in each race and hardly anything tore up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 The person in the Flag Stand should be the one that keeps the racers in check. That person should have FULL control over the whole race . Keep the tower, other officals, track owner, Promoter,etc off the radio and let that person run the show. Each one of the "Flags" in that tower has a meaning and those flags are within an arm reach of the Flagman. Let that person do their job and if anyone has a problem with rough driving or anything else they they can take it up with that person after the race. Just like "Tech". At most tracks the Flagman doesnt throw a flag unless the tower tells them to. Am I right or wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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