Sickem Posted February 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Im pretty sure there aint a racetrack south of houston that can afford to start runnin cars off. If you had shocks and car worked well with them would you honestly give them up. Hell no its one thing to tech shocks but claim is a whole different deal. As exspensive as stuff is now aint nobody gonna give an inch. But 35 for shocks is a slap in the face to the people that have to save several paychecks to try and keep a car at the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaerRacing00 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Im pretty sure there aint a racetrack south of houston that can afford to start runnin cars off. If you had shocks and car worked well with them would you honestly give them up. Hell no its one thing to tech shocks but claim is a whole different deal. As exspensive as stuff is now aint nobody gonna give an inch. But 35 for shocks is a slap in the face to the people that have to save several paychecks to try and keep a car at the track. Amen. I guess you do see the point. So you are saying if they want to claim your shocks you will not let them and not come back bc you will have to give up the shocks in order to come back...hell $35 wont even buy u a Monroe!!! But all is talk and ive just asked for them same set of rules for sts and sos and we finally got them praise the Lord. This year is hopefully a good year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthTxPromotions Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 No pure stock should have that kind of money invested in shocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm002 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 No pure stock should have that kind of money invested in shocks. I agree with you but I also agree with Waer that the track won't want to run people off with a claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthTxPromotions Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 If managed properly the rule can do no harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm002 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 If managed properly the rule can do no harm. Hell I think it would be cool to claim one off the winner every night and one off top 3 on the special events. Of course my shocks cost $37 so it wouldn't hurt me to have one claimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hly Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 If managed properly the rule can do no harm. Hell I think it would be cool to claim one off the winner every night and one off top 3 on the special events. Of course my shocks cost $37 so it wouldn't hurt me to have one claimed I'm pretty sure a shock across someone's head wouldn't feel to good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm002 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 If managed properly the rule can do no harm. Hell I think it would be cool to claim one off the winner every night and one off top 3 on the special events. Of course my shocks cost $37 so it wouldn't hurt me to have one claimed I'm pretty sure a shock across someone's head wouldn't feel to good... Hmmm good point didn't think about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickem Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 If managed properly the rule can do no harm. Hell I think it would be cool to claim one off the winner every night and one off top 3 on the special events. Of course my shocks cost $37 so it wouldn't hurt me to have one claimed I'm pretty sure a shock across someone's head wouldn't feel to good... Bingo! If there gonna try to manipulate shock claim then why not have a shock package that the track puts together. And its black and white. Danielson im sure your brother aint running $35 shocks on his. I understand claim rule but at least make respectable. If you have to study prices in the day book to see that you have one shovk that you can replace. These are race cars not bombers. They surpassed that a long long time ago. Stephan i will say your shock rule makes more sense then 35 claim. At least tou can have option but i dont want nothin that sound like it should come on a Chinese tractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthTxPromotions Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I doubt many are running a $35 shock but the purpose of this rule is to stop someone from buying a $35 shock , sending it off for revalving and having a stock appearing custom built racing shock. If anyone that wins and refuses the purse money and shock claim money basically is telling tech they have a lot of money in their shock and don't want to lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickem Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 If thats the case then why not change your shock rules. I see a whole lot of you shouldnt spend and alot of it dont cost that much! But im pretty sure what you would run and the next wont is the difference. Alot of promoter aint building car nor have to chase down 40yr parts. Not everyone has that buddy to get stuff from or have acces to parts so therefore they have to pay shipping cost and so on to get equivalent parts as the next person. But to say someone wont give there shocks up there cheatin maybe they just had to pay double for them so they could get them to race that night. There is alot of scenario to come up with but. As people spend more to keep racing the prices of equipment are not gettin cheaper. For someone to take some shocks you may have just bought that week and give them a lil change that wont replace them is bs. Not everyone wants what the next guy has or what people think somethimg should cost when they aint paying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaerRacing00 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 My only hope is if they are clearly labeled and the appear to be the shock labled then they wont claim them...using the rule wisely...just hope we can get season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthTxPromotions Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Daniel one big reason for the rule is shock builders are good enough to revalve stock appearing shock or make a custom racing shock appear to be stock. So you can not go off of appearance. I am only speaking for STP events but if a driver won one of my events and turned down a $2000 pay day over a shock I am scratching my head. Even a $500 payday plus the shock claim seems to still be very profitable to the driver being claimed. Me personally I would be running afco, pro type racing shocks that I invested somewhere around $50-$70 and if I was claimed big deal. The winning driver most likely won good purse money, got rid of a used shock, was compensated for a used shock, and he is not worrying about racing against someone that has $1000 set of shocks on their pure stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony22 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Shocks play a roll in a car up to about 20% but without a balanced set up on the car along with a good working front end it doesn't matter for example the 11 car that took the lead after I broke in the feature it has the cheapest set of shocks on it you can buy from o reileys but it has a good balanced set up an the front end is on point, it came out of my shop and It was assembled piece by piece in my shop. I on the other hand have a high dollar set of shocks and obviously they didn't win or loose me a race being our other car which is the 11 was faster but couldn't make consistent laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrightracing Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 So are you gonna start claiming motors because people spend to much on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickem Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I call bs tony22. You could tell he made some mistakes but he came around me and couldnt do nothing with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm002 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hope that front end on point is all stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony22 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Sickem your more than welcome to buy them I'll even let you come take them off for 150 the hole set I'll also put the car on the lift an let you look at whatever you want I'm located in splendora tx my numbers 281-961-7737 feel free to call an come by but I'll guarantee shocks didn't make you get passed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrigg Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 The important thing here is for guys to realize that shocks are timing devices and that is all they can do by design. Those ultra high dollar shocks aren't required on well set pure stocks or street stocks for that matter. I've seen more cars dialed out than dialed in by "trick" shock valving. When the mono tube evolution was beginning, most ran twin tubes to get the car as close as they could and then went to mono tubes. The early gas shocks did not offer good feel due to high gas pressures. As stated, you can buy any valving, gas pressures and other things that most will never understand. Very few actually know what "trick shocks" to buy if they were handed the check book. You can call all the shock specialist you know of and get a different answer from all of them. PS, they are in business to make money. Learn your car and make it work, it don't take a trailer full of shocks. I hate seeing guys get caught up in thinking they have to have the new gadget to win. These races are still won the old fashioned way, in the shop rubbing on your car til she's happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickem Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Good luck guys it will all get worked out. Hope yall have a good 2016. Friday nights will be tuff for me but will be there when i can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMR21 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Who's got the popcorn with the extra butter, please pass it down....I love this old movie...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMR21 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I will say this, the racers and tracks need to stick together and come to some mutual terms or there will not be any racing.The sports existence depends on a strong lobby in its favor. We must all find common ground. The EPA has stock car racing set squarely in its sights and are wanting to make it go away. "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm002 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I will say this, the racers and tracks need to stick together and come to some mutual terms or there will not be any racing.The sports existence depends on a strong lobby in its favor. We must all find common ground. The EPA has stock car racing set squarely in its sights and are wanting to make it go away. "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin I'm down with sticking together. That's why my car is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer027 Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I will say this, the racers and tracks need to stick together and come to some mutual terms or there will not be any racing.The sports existence depends on a strong lobby in its favor. We must all find common ground. The EPA has stock car racing set squarely in its sights and are wanting to make it go away. "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin I'm down with sticking together. That's why my car is legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 In the Legacys we specify which shock you must run. Without announcing when in advance, we pull some shocks, take them to the shock tech to get them dynoed. If out of spec, we confiscate the shock and DQ the car. If within spec, give the shocks back to the owner. We have a supply of legal shocks on hand that we loan to the team until the shocks come back from being dynoed. Of course, we work with a reputable shock tech company. Name available upon request via a PM. So far this process has worked pretty well. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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