TexasHighDef Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 She flips and then goes on to finsh 5th. Sure is some Great Racing going on at The Grands. Still one more day to catch some of the fun. Check this out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 one tough kid there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbinsSr Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 WoW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Why do they let these kids drive with their upper bodies hanging outside the cars? If you look real close at the video you can see that her head hid the wall. These are KIDS! Keep them inside the cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Motorsports Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Why do they let these kids drive with their upper bodies hanging outside the cars? If you look real close at the video you can see that her head hid the wall. These are KIDS! Keep them inside the cage. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE!!!! That could've easily been VERY bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwmbishop Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Why do they let these kids drive with their upper bodies hanging outside the cars? Simple. the weight transfer allows them to go faster which equals winning! this ain't kids soccer and winning is more important than anything else. ANYTHING. As a racer I am really suprised the rules don't address the wack-a-mole issue. As A parent I am appalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 This really has me upset. Im seriously reconsidering letting my daughter race these cars. I have her car set up to where she is inside the cage and not outside. She might not win any races this way but she will be safe. Plus I dont want her to see someone get hurt or killed driving these little cars. If the parents want their kid to lay down to the left while racing then build the cages offset to the left. I just cant believe a sanctioning body would allow this kind of thing to take place. Do they allow their kids to hang out the window of the family car? How many drivers do you know of race with their heads hanging out side the car? While typing this I have decided to sell her car and get her into a "Front Runner" type of car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I've seen pics of kids racing quarter midgets back in the 50's hanging out the left side and with no cage whatsoever. Guess it's been going on for a while. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I've seen them to Nick. But I didnt have a child wanting to race one then. Racing is a very dangerous sport. We all know that. I just cant bring myself to say" Oh, they have been doing this for years so that makes it OK". Dukes video shows that it's NOT OK. The car is going to be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwmbishop Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I've seen pics of kids racing quarter midgets back in the 50's hanging out the left side and with no cage whatsoever. Guess it's been going on for a while. Nick And would appear the learning curve is rather flat... The pain, the surgeries and the current limitations to my life from spondylosis and the related spinal issues are a direct result from the traumas I experienced doing just such things. I estimate about 9 or 10 "whiplashes" and other soft tissue injuries that over the years did me in. What parent (or sanctioning body) truly WANTS that for the kids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Needed: cage nets and seats/restraints that don't allow any part of the body/head outside the cage. -----> HERE They don't hang out of full midgets and sprints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Duke, congrats on an incredible vid. This vid offers proof positive some safety changes are badly needed in these cars. Let's hope the appropriate officials are watching and listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 So.. As everyone goes off here.. lets put something into perspective.. just a very few years ago.. that was not a safer barrier.. it was Gurdrail... Notice the whole wall give and absorb the energy?.... Look for the good not always the bad.. Many of those kids now are wearing Head & Neck.. Also notice the fire suit with Head sock?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Aaron, do you drive at THR with YOUR head hanging out the window? I've been to that track and watched those kids race. The first time I saw them doing that, I thought it was rather odd and looked a bit unsafe. BUT, like most, I supposed those people knew what they were doing. So I left without really giving it much of a second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 So.. As everyone goes off here.. lets put something into perspective.. just a very few years ago.. that was not a safer barrier.. it was Gurdrail... Notice the whole wall give and absorb the energy?.... Look for the good not always the bad.. Many of those kids now are wearing Head & Neck.. Also notice the fire suit with Head sock?.... Agreed... The wall is safer but the fact still remains that the kids upper body is OUTSIDE the cage. What if another car had flipped in front of her and was on its side with the bottom of the car facing her? Her head would have made full contact with the bottom of the other persons car. I dont care what ANYONE says....This practice is dangerious.....period. And QMA promotes this type of driving. In the 2010 QMA rule book this is one of the rules: 22. G No restraining device of any kind is to be used to keep the driver’s head or body outside the roll cage, with the exception of attaching both shoulder straps to the left upright bar of the cage. They allow the kids to drive like this.....idiots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 this is Josh on dads screen name as I am in Midland hanging with him tonight. But I want to share a picture of me from 1994 when I raced quarters and it shows me hanging out of the car. as someone stated earlier it does help to lean out of the car and you could also lean forward and backward to help transfer. But I raced these cars for 8 years and and helped with a driver for another 2 and only one time did I ever see a wreck a car ran over the left rear wheel of the car he was passing and shot tire over the helmet of the kid and it messed him up to where he was knocked out but he came back the next day and won infact i was behind the two of them when it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJY08 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Wish they had that safty barrier there when i was racing Q.M back in the day.. I hit the same turn almost the same spot into a Metal Guard Rail...When i hit, you could hear "THONK" all around the track.. And if am not mistaking in the middle of 1&2 they had ply wood..I remember racing one night in very cold weather and one of my buddys just froze up and went straight into the plywood...So that track looks much better now then back then... Hey Josh i dont know if they are still there... But do you remember those big yellow speed bump looking thinks on the inside of the track in that turn..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertx Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Doesn't look safe to me but then what about go carts with no anything.Hey Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Why try to talk about safety.....No one wants to listen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersracing Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 most of these kids sit on the floor pan and back fire wall and have the seat belts on the left side of the car. We have a race seat in our car and my lil racer does not hang out past the bars !!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I just watched the video several more times......EVERY one of those kids were hanging outside the cage. A couple of them have containment seats and they are still hanging outside the cage. Even the young lady that flipped was once again leaning outside the cage once the race re-started. Those kids do it because the adults allow them to. I dont care how many years someone raced in QM and was never hurt or how many years their kids or friends race them without an injury........they were just very very lucky. This is a "No Brainer" in my book. Just watch the slow motion part of Dukes video. And you would still allow your child to do this? I pray you wouldnt. Im sending letters to the QM Headquarters and letting them know how I feel about this. Sad thing is that they will just hit the "Delete" key and continue doing things their way. Reb....mind if I come over and dig a hole next to yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Papa i did it for 8 years and if i could do it again i would the same way and my kid would do it the same. I dont see why the big stink over this but like someone said before go karts have no cage and are going alot faster. Ever since they added the cages there has never been a fatality or major injury except for some bumps and bruises. the cars today are alot more safer than cars i raced 14 years ago. i have flipped these cars and had my head hit the ground and was perfectly fine when i got out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 The kids are not old enough to understand how dangerous it is. The parents are putting them in these situations. If you made them all stay within the cage area, it would be a level playing field in a safer environment. I wonder how a parent would feel if their child got their neck broke at such a young age racing for a trophy? What good is a tough guy kid with a broken neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Josh I know you and your dad did this for a long time and the cars are safer today than back then but did you look at the video? Her head hit the wall. Yes it was a foam wall but what if she hit another car or something on the other side of the wall? The go-kart thing is true...they have no protection but I am pretty sure that a 5 year old is not allowed to run at THR with their karts. Adults can make the call to drive one because they are adults. These are kids that rely on adults to make call to keep them safe. My daughters kart (Yerf Dog) has a cage. Im not trying to argue with anyone or make anyone mad. I just dont think the kids should be hanging outside the cage. What I saw on the video proves that without a dought in my eyes. What is the "Net" or "Panel" on the right side of a QM for?........its to KEEP their head inside the cage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 I agree Papa, and as Maverick said, if all were required to be restrained within the cage, it would be a level playing field for all. This of course would have to be mandated by the sanctioning body. Like you, I think it is a no-brainer. In racing at any level the appropriate steps must be taken to prevent helmet to wall, track, etc. contact. Advances in racing safety technology have traditionally come at a tragically high price. This vid graphically and profoundly illustrates the need for change. In this case fortunately, without "paying the tragic price." I would say to those in charge "Don't squander this opportunity by turning a blind eye to it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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