badsonic Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k0XmLUk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Motorsports Posted September 18, 2009 Report Share Posted September 18, 2009 That may be...but I'd STILL rather be in the Bel Air than some of the tin cans running around these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1955chevy33 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Its hard to tell but it looks like the engine was out of the bel air and some of the main supports were taken loose. I dont believe a new 2009 aluminum fiberglass can would do that much damage to a real steel bel air unless the test was rigged. I would rather be in the bel aire also ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I agree it looks staged. I have been around wrecking yards my whole life and have never seen that much damage on a car of that age. weither it hit a stationary object or a moving one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 i had a 59 chevy and can tell you .when i was hit by another car in 1976 ..that 75 impala didnt run on the road again ..i had a scratch compared to his car ... i drove mine home ..aint nothing like a chain and an old oak tree ..... so i dont buy this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I don't put much merit in these kinds of demonstrations. Think back to 1993 when they found out that a test of gas tanks on Chevy trucks was rigged to try to place blame in lawsuits. One of the major news networks was involved in that one. It is too easy to skew test results when you can make discreet modifications to the car that can't be detected by the cameras. Pull a few fender mount bolts. A couple saw cuts. And, given that his test was performed by a National Safety Institute, maybe they are trying to justify the money spent on their research?? The old return on investment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badsonic Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 here are some incar camera shot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwYBBpHg1I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ1796 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 If there were people driving these cars, the driver of the Impala would still be here today, the driver of the Bel-Air would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badsonic Posted September 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 well after watching this video be my guess get in the bel air, id rather be in a car with airbags and break-away crash mounts hw much can the 59' weight? remember that the 09 malibu weighs just over 3600#s its not fragile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 I hear people say, "they don't build them like they used to", and I'm glad. Mine always starts easy when it's cold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97car Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Yes and no choke to set either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted September 19, 2009 Report Share Posted September 19, 2009 Whether the cars were rigged or not to make it a predictable outcome, just ask if that guy in the Malibu would have walked away with a knee injury if he did not have an air bag. Damage looked pretty equal to me but I kept seeing that air bag deploy immediately on impact while the poor crash dummy in the Bel Air kissed the steering column. Probably did not even have a seatbelt in that care either. So yes, an air bag and a seat belt make them safer but looked to me like the metal bent all the same, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ1796 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Whether the cars were rigged or not to make it a predictable outcome, just ask if that guy in the Malibu would have walked away with a knee injury if he did not have an air bag. Damage looked pretty equal to me but I kept seeing that air bag deploy immediately on impact while the poor crash dummy in the Bel Air kissed the steering column. Probably did not even have a seatbelt in that care either. So yes, an air bag and a seat belt make them safer but looked to me like the metal bent all the same, Look at the crash dummies in the other videos, no comparison in what would have happened to the drivers. The Belaire driver doesnt survive, the Malibu driver does. The airbag is a big part but so is the crushability of the newer car.The driver of the Belaire hits his head on the top of the interior of the car, no airbag there in either car. An airbag doesnt save the life of the Belaire driver. Thank god for improvement in todays cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Holy crap....I'll soon be driving a 58 Chevy El Camino (slight custom) and I was feeling pretty good about the heavy metal til I saw that video. I'm at least going to put seat belts in since they didn't have them til after 62. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I think it might have been staged. Heres why: The Impala did its job by "Breaking Away" as it was designed to do. Im sure it is a very safe car because of those designs. But...The BelAir would not crumble like that with the Impala "Breaking Away". The Impala would not be putting that much pressure on the BelAir because it was breaking away. Im no expert. I might be wrong. It just doesnt seem right that the BelAir would crumble like that without something being done to it. We will all have our own theory about this one. Its just a shame they destroyed two very cool cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1955chevy33 Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 I still say this was staged. I drive my 1955 in dirt track racing and the sheet metal is so tough compared to the new cars/trucks. There is no way I will ever believe this wasnt staged. It looks like the engine was removed and the main supports taken loose or removed. You guys that want to drive a plastic and aluminum impala be my guest. I just hope you never hit an old school vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Motorsports Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Theyy have another video on the micro cars. MY GOD!! They are DEATHTRAPS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 I still say this was staged. I drive my 1955 in dirt track racing and the sheet metal is so tough compared to the new cars/trucks. There is no way I will ever believe this wasnt staged. It looks like the engine was removed and the main supports taken loose or removed. You guys that want to drive a plastic and aluminum impala be my guest. I just hope you never hit an old school vehicle. my point was not on the safety factor .my point is what you just made ..i agree with you .its staged .we the ones who grew up with those old cars know that new impala could not do that much damage in its current design......hell go to a demo durby ..most car are 70.s and 80.s why cuz they are tuff and would wipe out the newer ones in the first couple of good hits ..and why are most bombers classes running 70.and 80.s cars .....go ahead and run a 90.s model and up ..wont last long ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ1796 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Looking at the vid between 1:00 and 1:05, doesnt that look like the air cleaner coming out of the Belair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathy Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Good question champ. Why don't we see more engine parts flying around? You see them all the time when the have a hard crash in the racecars. It's interesting that the sunvisors in the old car come flying off. I don't think I believe this crash is a true test either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ1796 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 It may not be a true test but they did pick a good car to do it with in a 59 Bel-Aire. The x frames in those cars were terrible as far as a frontal crash goes. Make it a mid 60's through 72 model or so and its a different test altogether. A perimeter or ladder framed vehicle from the same era probably fares better, although not by a whole lot. The driver probably suffers major injuries or a fatality even with the better framed cars because their was no crushablity built into those cars. All of the energy goes into the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badsonic Posted September 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 for what ive heard x frames were death traps back in the old days, exactly couldnt handle the frontal impacts and about newer cars not being used in demo derbys no comment com on' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakdad Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 So, the guy in the BelAir had plenty of time to swerve out of the way! They should take his license!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cummins359 Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 i wanna see the same test done with an old outlawed Imperial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuttingEdgeRacing Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 I call total b.s. The b pillar is out of the car, there is no engine, I see all sorts of weird things going on. None the less, airbags are certainly one of the best inventions made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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