JimHubbard Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Drivers, crew, fans, families, and friends, In light of the recent altercations at our tracks (and others), both San Antonio Speedway and Central Texas Speedway management have determined it necessary and right to put rules in place that prohibit fighting effective immediately. Our main concern has and always will be for the safety of the participants and fans. In addition, we feel it's important to set a good example for the children in attendance and just plain operate at a higher level. The new rules, outlined below, will remain in effect at both tracks until further notice. MISCONDUCT-FIGHTING 1. Non-drivers a. 1st offense will result in being escorted off facility premises b. 2nd offense will result in being escorted off the facility premises and a one race suspension for the next race c. 3rd offense will result in being escorted off the facility premises and suspension for the remainder of the season 2. Drivers a. 1st offense will result in being escorted off facility premises and disqualification from the race b. 2nd offense will result in being escorted off facility premises, disqualification from the race, and a one race suspension for the next race c. 3rd offense will result in being escorted off the facility premises, disqualification from the race, and suspension for the remainder of the season The Race Director's decision is final. There will be no appeal process. Jim-CTS Brian and Chris-SAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSRSONETWO Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Good job CTS. What to step up. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 I would eliminate step b but good job for doing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdogracing777 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Hey little buddy you forgot rule #777 Crybabies You will be required to were crybaby towel the remainder of season! Good job on your rules every track should adopt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford27 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 Good. I like the track doing something. I'd went a bit further. I think any fighting from anyone should be a dq and immediately escort off the property for entire team .Crew members would not be allowed back period. Drivers would have a year probation. But at least we all acknowledge how stupid these guys are and how bad of an example they are to our children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'd have made step "C" a 1 yr suspension no matter what time of the season it occured so as to not encourage end of season acting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimHubbard Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'd have made step "C" a 1 yr suspension no matter what time of the season it occured so as to not encourage end of season acting up. In response to those suggesting tougher consequences, I hear you loud and clear. They were contemplated thoroughly and it was ultimately decided that this should be enough to deter fighting. I didn't want to come off like a little Dictator and honestly believe that respect earned is respect given. Meaning that CTS and SAS give the drivers the respect they deserve and in return the drivers/crews will give our tracks the class and respect they deserve. I'm in favor of keeping it as simple as possible. If we need to ramp up the consequences, I'm not afraid to do that. Lol. Stay classy Central Texas Racers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprintsrule Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 MISCONDUCT-FIGHTING 1. Non-drivers a. 1st offense will result in being escorted off facility premises b. 2nd offense will result in being escorted off the facility premises and a one race suspension for the next race c. 3rd offense will result in being escorted off the facility premises and suspension for the remainder of the season It is nice you are trying to stop the fighting but I do not see these stopping anybody. Being escorted off the premises? Big deal! Unless it is in the back of a police car, that is hardly a deterent. After two fights you get a ONE race suspension? If I got in two fights at the same place I would surely assume worse consequences like being asked to never return. I appreciate you guys wanting to get the fighting under control because you will lose a lot of families if it continues but these are hardly deterents. How about a person in the pits of a competitor who gets in a fight goes to jail. Isn't that what would happen at most public places? Anybody picking up a bat or jack handle needs to be suspended period. I believe it would be a felony if used and definitely a lawsuit waiting to happen with the track having to provide proof of what measures they took to stop it. None of us want our tracks involved in anything like that and it needs to be done quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Spot on , sprintsrule. That's the first thing I thought.Get in two fights and save the last one til two races left in the season.Big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 With just two or three events left in the season, if one individual gets into two fights, that kinda speaks on that particular individual and I'm sure the tracks would take into consideration for repeat offenders imo but I'm not those individuals making that decision and hopefully no one will have another altercation but reading around here, I doubt we've seen the last of it. Kudos to CTS and SAS for doing something. Just a question, don't all tracks have fighting rules at the beginning of the season? Not intending on being a smart a$$ with that question in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevyfan Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Weak ! Kinda of a slap in the face for people who actually act like adults , and drive with respect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert COP Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'd have made step "C" a 1 yr suspension no matter what time of the season it occured so as to not encourage end of season acting up. Agree 100 % Rusty, These idiots that can't control their emotions have no business on the track either. I've seen it fester, and then they end up taking someone's car out and/or hurting someone. Amen, I also agree with all the tracks adopting the same rules for mis-conduct. Say you have a major incident at one track, that individual shouldn't be able to pack up and just show up somewhere else to race without being put on a short leash (stern warning about conduct). The tracks should share this type of information between themselves to prevent a repeat at another track. Cheers, Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer61 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 What is really sad, is that they had to put these rules in. It should be a no brainer that fighting isnt allowed. Atleast at respectable tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 Unfortunately there is an old standard that has existed for centuries and I do not see it changing anytime soon. Ten percent of the people cause 100 percent of the problems which is why they write rules and regulations for the other 90 to follow. Most folks are responsible and follow the fine line of respectability but those 10 per centers will continue to cause 100 percent of the problems. The rules now set by Kyle and San Antonio are fair and reasonable and 90 percent will obey them to the letter. But now there is a rule that at least can be used to adjudicate the 10 per cent troublemakers. And if they do not work well enough they can be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellyracing111 Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Zero tolerance would get rid of the 10% and the rest would not have to worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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