TexasTornado Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 was that the first time the guy in the [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/4/06] tsrs car has ever raced. he [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/4/06] repeatedly spun out by himself. one time he passed the wreck, and decided just to loop it out of no where. after three times of spinnin by yourself, i think they shouldve black flagged the guy. but they let him stay out [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/4/06] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 4, 2006 Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 It's easy for those of us who are watching from outside the track to critisize. But just like anything else in life, things look very different from inside a race car. But if you have a problem with a driver, please take it up with him/her instead of bashing them in our forum sections. I am going to leave part of your post up, however, because it does raise an important question about when the race director should black flag someone who is having trouble keeping the car under control. Nick Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I think the car should have been asked to leave the race when it ran into the back of the other car that was stopped under caution and was conferring with the race official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 not meant as a bash............BUT was a drug test done on the [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/4/06] that almost killed jack and popped a stalled car on the front straight under yellow? i'm sorry nick , i had to mention it. that was just goofy , along with other stuff he had done leading up to that through out the race................if there is a good excuse for it i' d like to hear it.............. again not meant as a bash , just still kind of in ah over it.........bless his heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 .......bless his heart. Horse, you always make me laugh, even on such a serious topic. I'm glad nobody was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I know that several racing organizations have a rule that if you cause two yellows, you're black flagged from the event. I'm not sure what rule TSRS uses, but I did notice black flags for at least two cars last Saturday after a few spins. Nick Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I am sure Nick knows how jack felt Crazy... I remember when he had his head in the window of a race car and that car got Tagged from behind... Sure jack felt just as uneasy.. It was fast enough to shove the fuel cell of the 12 car up against the rearend.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arts22 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 was that the first time the guy in the [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/4/06] tsrs car has ever raced. he [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/4/06] repeatedly spun out by himself. one time he passed the wreck, and decided just to loop it out of no where. after three times of spinnin by yourself, i think they shouldve black flagged the guy. but they let him stay out [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/4/06] I got black flagged for 3 spins.... 2 spins from avoiding that car. Had me in the infield on the front straight and the 49 was at the wall and neither one of us could get around him, the car was way out of control. Then parks it in 3 and 4.... The only good thing from that night is nobody got hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Well, I noticed before that happened that neither the tail lights NOR the brake lights were working on the 12 car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGural Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 This is what I found on the MAN Racing site as the rule... Any car that causes three (3) Yellow/Red Flags to be displayed in a race will be black flagged (including solos) and will no longer be scored. Thank God that Jack, Adam, or anyone else was hurt during that ordeal. Shame for Adam, he was having a good clean run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I believe the car in Question was [edited out by Nick Holt, 9/3/-06] A driver that clueless should be pulled off the track.Of course most of the drivers in TSRS drove with 1/2 their brain tied behind there back Sat. night.Total lack of respect by alot of drivers.I was setting in the crowd after our race and you should have heard the way the fans were talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Go ahead and edit Nick I would tell someone with TSRS but they don't care this is the way that class has been going for the last two years.All but a few drivers should be sat down by their Sponsors or Car Owners and chewed out that was embarrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Knew that was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Any racing series can have a night like TSRS had last Saturday at THR. I bet Mary Ann will be making some interesting phone calls this week, though... Which really brings up a subject that is rarely discussed - namely: What standards should a racing organization use in determining when to black flag someone off the track? I have my thoughts and I'm pretty sure you have yours. Let's talk about it. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Nick I knew you where going to edit,but I posted what was true.As far as talking about it I don't have the deep pockets it takes for anyone to listen. My wife won't even listen. Just joking sweet heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Nick I knew you where going to edit,but I posted what was true.As far as talking about it I don't have the deep pockets it takes for anyone to listen. My wife won't even listen. Just joking sweet heart. All I did was remove the car number, Charles. I left the thread up because it does bring up a serious issue as I mentioned above. But bashing a particular driver is not permitted on TXSZ. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I was pretty tired after running 50 laps with the street stocks and then working turn 4 during the TSRS race. I don't have a clue what happened. I kept looking up for a full moon. I do know that I nor any of the other TSRS officials were behind the wheel of those cars. Charles I'm not sure how to take your comment about the last 2 years. I have been at all the races and most have been very good. Have you been at all the races ? I've seen nights like this happen to all the series like Nick said. Thankfully this is a rare occurance and I am sure steps will be taken to prevent this from happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Nick the rule is if you are involved in 3 cautions you are BLACK FLAGGED and parked.If TSRS would have done that there wouldn't be many cars racing for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Mickey this is the first year I did not race with TSRS. I was still in the stands for all but two races. Turning a blind eye will not fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 That will propably be my third edit since I've been on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I have always taken pride in the way I treat everyone on and off the track.Guess my way of thinking is going going gone.Alot of the drivers out there should be thankful that they have the opportunity to race in a class like TSRS.I at one time did and it was awsome. Lets just hope that TSRS can learn and cope with all that is going on. Remember it is better to be proactive than reactive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Mary Ann wasn't happy, Kim wasn't happy and I'm sure all the other members of TSRS were not happy. I wasn't keeping up with the number of cautions that certain cars caused but I do feel one was missed. I can and will speak for TSRS regarding what happened. No one liked it but it's water under the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 Water under the bridge,it won't happen again,we'll talk to the drivers,we messed up,Oh boy I've had enough. If it was up to me the drivers would be in for a world of %$#@.If I would have paid to set in the stands and watch that mess I would ask for my money back.If you need help let me know I'll be in the enfield with you,on second tought scratch that until someone can actually make a call don't count me in that mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racegirl Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 I find it interesting when the drivers drive like they did saturday, how it becomes the series fault. It is beyond me as to why officials seem to be the cause for everything. Those of you who think like this should try it, see the sh*t we go through, see how often we get yelled out, complained to, and disrespected at the track and why we aren't behind the wheel or the gas petal. This season has been WONDERFUL; one of the most enjoyable I have had as an official, I will say, the drivers were off saturday. I have the utmost respect for those guys and gals on the track and in return I would hope those of us who are officials would have that same respect. I will say that the two cars that had three cautions were black flagged. This is my only post about this topic because I do have a life outside of this and graduate school will not be put on hold because I am astonished my the lack of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 There were problems with most every class and that darn caution flag Saturday night. The drivers themselves are the only ones that can remedy this situation. The officials can only do so much. They aren't driving the cars. On a brighter note! What a job MaryAnn has done at THR! When was the last time we saw that many cars in the pits and so many competitors in each class. Congrats MaryAnn, Brian, & Jack & the whole crew. Keep up the good work. The Superstock race was the best! U guys, (and gals) are the best. Keep on Keeping on! Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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