ups88john Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 please guys and gals, if you have a problem with a driver, please tell the driver, not his/her crew, not the trophy girl or anyone else. i am getting sick and tired of hearing people say this and that about him or her. if you dont have the nerve to walk up to the driver and tell him/her how you feel, please keep your mouth shut. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Amen to that Big John!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Well said, Big. Over the long years I have spent in this sport, I have had various drivers, crews, owners, wives, drunks, etc, holler at me about something a driver I was helping at the time did. They all found out quickly that I didn't have much time for them. Their complaint is with the driver, not me. A year or two ago, a driver I crewed for wrecked a driver Big John crewed for. Did Big and I get mad at each other? Certainly not. We weren't driving the damn cars, why should we have a problem. If the crews, families, etc would stay out of an incident, the drivers can usually work out their problem themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 lmao It ain't racing and your not at a race track if there isn't drama... im being sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloyd#5 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 I'm all for that big john. i just hope the person who you're talking about reads this site and might be able to get the nerves up next time to tell me to my face. grow up and be a man and say what you wanna say to my face not my crew or worse yet the trophy girl and or sister-in-law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpfan Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 John let us in on what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Hey John, That I know of we've never met, but that sounds like the best idea I've heard of... I'll even go one step further, if the person/driver/father of a driver would come to the driver in question and ask nicely for something like a car to be tech even tough the car was almost distroyed; I'd bet that driver in question would have no problem... You see sometimes you don't get both sides of a story... Then again sometimes we do and we just choose to choose sides... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy5249 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 I dont think it matters what happened hes jsut tellin everyone to grow some B***S and tell the driver what the problem is dont let it come through the grapevine and change 19 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted July 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 there is two sides of every story, but i am tired of hearing from other people(officials, crewmembers, trophy queen, and others that are not drivers) that i need to tell my driver to do this and what not. I guarantee if you were to come over to either of my drivers and talk to them civil, they will have a decent coversation with you. there is nothing to be scared of, we are good people. tom is right, we were standing next to each other ontop of his drivers trailer when two crashed, no big deal, i know tom cant drive the car neither can I. bla bla bla this is getting too long. bottom line, if you want to tell lloyd or allen something, just come over and say it. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 ...there is two sides of every story...bottom line, if you want to tell lloyd or allen something, just come over and say it. Big John, One the other hand, don't be going over to someone else's pit and causing trouble just because BJ invited you over. Most of the pit incidents I have had to break up have been someone from one team going over to another team's pit and causing a stink (or worse). About the best way to handle post race talks is to let the two drivers have a private talk somewhere other than each other's pits. Nick Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingaces Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 RANDY 5249 I COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER KISS I LIKE THAT. I WISH PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN TO WHAT RANDY SAID INSTEAD OF A PERSON RUNNING AROUND THE PITS CACKLING LIKE A BIRD DON'T TELL EVERY ONE ELSE HOW YOU FEEL ,TELL THE PERSON YOU HAVE THE DISAGREEMENT WITH AND IF YOU CANT DO THAT KEEP TO YOUR SELF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVCMNGR1 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 The key to all of this is be civil when you walk into somebody elses pits. The biggest part of my job as a crew member is the safety of my driver. That doesn't necessarily end when the race is over. You storm into our pits or bring a group of people with you and there may be a problem. Fortunately, that has not happened. Nick and Big John have hit the nail on the head. Let the drivers talk it over. Once they have worked it out, it should be over. Some people just aren't happy unless they are talking smack about others. Best way to deal with them is to ignore them. Once they realize you won't be participating they will leave to find one of their own kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keep trying #9 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Do you truly think ALL drivers will talk and LISTEN to the concerns of the other driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysnake Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 ...or to a pit crew member's mother's sister's brother's uncle's cousin third removed!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Big John, Agreed... I didn't realize you were speaking about Allen and Lloyd... Sorry... We have had alot of things being said recently also... Of course much of it is talk... Much of it is he said she said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted July 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 10-4 nick, we dont want any trouble, and like svcmgr said im interested in my drivers saftey on and off the track. now if you come over hollerin and screamin with 10 people, then there may be some trouble, but if you can cool off for a while, get your thoughts together and then come to the drivers pits or a neutral pit and discuss it. neither side may like it, but at least we dont have to hear about it from the homeless guy talking to a beer can and showering in track bite. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Me no scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted July 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 good, no need to be scared. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Big John, what if I have a problem with your crewing job? LMAO Just trying to add some levity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 I got wind of this the other night and if anyone would of came up to this Offical and said anything I would have had no problem telling them I DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS. I have a job to do and I do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 i went over to 2 drivers after a race in cc. 2 lap cars caused me to go a lap down . well next race it was said stay in your pit . well there goes that. then what do you do???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 j.j... sounds like you need to send a messenger Piggeon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboyracing7 Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Well said Big John, i have had a competitors crew member damn near start a brawl in the pit stands with me and several of our crew members before and thought to myself, "what a moron" he was screaming and cursing in front of all of the drivers crews and family, women and children, i calmly leaned toward him and said "grow up buddy, talk to the man driving the car, i am a spectator from this point, i am not in control of the car pal". After the race was completed, his driver and ours had a civil chat when the raging fool aprochaed all of us screaming and hollering his driver told him to cool it and that acting a fool does noone any good. I have since seen the same person crewing for others act like a lunatic many more times since........ an official needs to suspen someone like this for a season and let them know, behavior like this is not appreciated and not welcome. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Riley Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 jj&s, Are you sure it wasn't the fault of the leaders hauling a$$. Maybe you should have confronted them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted July 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 jjs, ive seen to go talk to other drivers, maybe you should stay in your pit, ha ha ha, hallas, if you dont like the way i crew, thats too bad, ha ha ha. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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