Mel Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 TxTom's gonna like this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3Motorsports Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 The good ol days of racing in Texas right there. Those were some fun times.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 lots of stars in those pics, sure loved that Lee Machen prepared/ Jerry Grant driven Chevelle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippyracer00 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Do my eyes deceive me or is that a Larry Bendele #23. And where was tws located? I ras never fortunate enough to attend a race there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 lots of stars in those pics, sure loved that Lee Machen prepared/ Jerry Grant driven Chevelle! I kinda liked that car too, Rodney!! Mac still has the car at his farm, with different skin on it. Do my eyes deceive me or is that a Larry Bendele #23. And where was tws located? Yes, that is ol' blue smoke himself. TWS is Texas World Speedway in College Station, Texas. A 2 mile oval similar to Michigan; we ran half the roadcourse, and half the oval. Our events were the "Texas Race of Champions", and were administered by Neil Upchurch. Some of the funnest weekeds you could ever have in racing. Scroll back through this history section, and there is lots more on TWS and TROC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloutpc17 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 My dad ran there in the Long's engines red, white, and blue, #45. I remember he said he had to add ground effects to the car cause at those speeds it would start raising the front end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 That has to be Beaver Stelzig in the #51. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilTPS Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Tom: Thanks for your historic alignment and definitions concerning Texas World Speedway and the Texas Race of Champions. Some people don’t appreciate the fact that I suggested the TROC-LM race to the then President of TWS, the late Dick Conole. He agreed provided I run the event from everything to rules writing to race direction. I will list the winners of the TROC a bit later in this post. Mel: Thanks for posting the historic photos of the Super Stock races at TWS. I also suggested the addition of the Super Stock class support race to TWS President, Dick Conole. He was initially reluctant to approve my suggestion. He needed to be satisfied that a Super Stock type car was suitable to race on the two mile road and oval course. I managed to convince him by having him join me at a few Texas short tracks so I could demonstrate the SS’s in their pits and for Dick to see them racing on track. As they say, “the rest is history”. We had many exciting Super Stock support races with field almost as large as the TROC-LM’s. Jerry Grant of Austin won the majority of our races driving the #81 Chevelle (pictured earlier in this thread). Texas Race of Champions Winners - Texas World Speedway < Year & TROC Number Year/# Driver/Hometown Car# Car Type 1976<#1 Ed Sczech/San Antonio TX #67 Chevrolet Chevelle 1977<#2 H.B. Bailey/Houston, TX #36 Pontiac Firebird 1978< #3 Jimmy Finger/Austin TX #22 Chevrolet Camaro 1979< #4 Jimmy Finger/Austin TX #22 Chevrolet Camaro 1980< #5 Freddy Fryar/Beaumont TX #14 Chevrolet Camaro 1981< #6 Terry Labonte/Corpus Christi, TX #44 Oldsmobile Calais 1983< #7 John Newlin/Houston, TX #54 Pontiac TransAm 1984< #8 Freddy Fryar/Beaumont TX #46 Chevrolet Camaro 1985< #9 Terry Labonte/Corpus Christi, TX #44 Pontiac Firebird 1986< #10 Terry Labonte/Corpus Christi, TX #44 Pontiac Firebird 1987<#11 Tommy Riggins/Jacksonville, FL #02 Buick Regal 1988<#12 Tommy Riggins/Jacksonville, FL #02 Buick Regal 1991<#13 Slick Yoemans/High Point, NC #24 Ford Thunderbird 1996< #14 David Starr/Houston, TX #87 Chevrolet Camaro 1996< #15 Tommy Grimes/San Antonio, TX #22 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Notes: All Texas Race of Champions events were contested on the 2.0 mile road course except in 1996 when twin 25 lap TIDA-LM races were held on the same day on the 1.5 mile Texas World Speedway inner oval (30 miles) Texas Race of Champions events were not held in 1982, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1994 and 1995. Compiled by: Neil Upchurch Former Race Director, Texas Race of Champions, Texas World Speedway Contributions by: Cotton Sherland, Former Chief Inspector, Texas Race of Champions Russ Martin, Public Address Announcer, Texas Race of Champions Bob Castleberry, Former Chief Inspector, TWS Super Stock Class Neil Upchurch Race Director, TIDA-LM Series, Super Stock Class and Texas Pro Sedans at Texas World Speedway Founder and Retired Former Driver, Race & Administrative Director, Texas Pro Sedans & TIDA-LM Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 That's my old man in the black 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt5858 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Thats John Benker in the #55 "Short" Monte Carlo. Is that Tommy Gural in the #9 Camero on the outside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacecar Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 The #9 was Darrell Forrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Pat Lane in the #85 inside of Darrell Forrest. And that 15 is indeed the Hogg himself. Can't really tell, but the car outside Benker looks like Jerry Spencer, the Kyle tire guy. The wins we got with Jerry Grant and "ol red" at the TROC events were some of our favorites, but we would have to give credit to a lot of folks on this one. The engine package had help from Ron Neal at Prototype Engines, the cam in the engine was a variant of a private grind that Freddy Fryar developed through Reed Cams, The suspension had no less than Fryar, Danny Stewart, Mac, Steve Klestinec, and a couple others, and no telling who all filled and sanded the body lines after Grant got done with his body tweaks. Add that the engine was tuned by the gifted hands of the late, great, Leroy Brooks, and this car was a total team effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 That's my old man in the black 15 we know. we know .lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'm gonna take a few guesses on some other cars. 01-Ray Becka? 10-Don Painter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloutpc17 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I'm gonna take a few guesses on some other cars. 01-Ray Becka? 10-Don Painter? Yes, #01 Ray Becka. Always liked his sharp car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 don't forget Jerry Spencer in the #56 Nova. Always a contender at TWS and the Ellis Camaro. Love that Grand National looking Bud Light Buick of Larry Hoeuston in the 5 and cannot forget Mr. Spillar in the clean 57 Camaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottfan Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 don't forget Jerry Spencer in the #56 Nova. Always a contender at TWS and the Ellis Camaro. Love that Grand National looking Bud Light Buick of Larry Hoeuston in the 5 and cannot forget Mr. Spillar in the clean 57 Camaro. I think Dwayne Dougherty in the sharp #23, notice he's on pole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt5858 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Sorry elliotfan but #23 is Larry Bendele from SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Dwayne drove a #33 Camaro in those events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloutpc17 Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 I have 3 or 4 full envelopes full of pics from 1984-1987 of Texas world super stocks and late model of every car that was there. And also SAS around that same time. I dont have a scanner but i will try to get them on here. If there is a certain car your looking for i most likely have the pic and will post for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippyracer00 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 I have 3 or 4 full envelopes full of pics from 1984-1987 of Texas world super stocks and late model of every car that was there. And also SAS around that same time. I dont have a scanner but i will try to get them on here. If there is a certain car your looking for i most likely have the pic and will post for you. Do u have any pics of Gary Chappell, black #13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trlrider Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 As I recall, in 1984 Freddie was disqualified in post race inspection (illegal engine if memory serves) and Leroy Farmer in the #11 should be listed as the TROC winner! IF that was not the case, it seems real strange that that trophy was on the shelf in our shop for some reason! Edit: As pointed out by Mr. Upchurch, the race was the Texas Grand Prix! As for the rest of the story - well - we will leave it at that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilTPS Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 The year Freddie Fryar was disqualified and 2nd place Leroy Farmer was declared winner was in a Texas Grand Prix race, not the Texas Race of Champions (if I did recall correctly, see next post). Neil Upchurch Former Texas Grand Prix Race Director Texas World Speedway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilTPS Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 trlrider: After some additional research of my TWS records, I found the official list (with the exception of March 9, 1986. If anyone has the winner’s name of that Texas Grand Prix event, please post it here) Meanwhile since the record of the Texas Grand Prix has now been posted, you should post an apology for not understanding the difference between a Texas Grand Prix and a Texas Race of Champions. You’re apparently long standing anxiety; bias and misunderstanding upon which you based your post will then be excused. In that apology, you should consider congratulating all Texas World Speedway, Texas Grand Prix Officials who I employed for their fairness and forthright officiating of the 1985, not the 1984 event which you incorrectly criticized. Btw trlrider: Is your name Louis Upton? Texas Grand Prix winners at Texas World Speedway Year - Driver/Hometown - Car# - Car Type 1980 - H.B. Bailey/Houston, TX - #96 - Pontiac Firebird 1981 - Jimmy Finger/Austin TX - #22 - Chevrolet Camaro 1983 - Freddy Fryar/Beaumont TX - #14 - Chevrolet Camaro 1984 - Terry Labonte/Corpus Christi, TX - #45 - Olds Calais 1985 March 10 - Bobby Allison/Hueytown, AL - #22 - Buick Regal 1985 March 10 - Leroy Farmer/San Antonio, TX - #11 - Pontiac Firebird (1986 March 9 - TWS records are incomplete regarding this race date) 1987 March 8 - Freddy Fryar/Beaumont TX - #14 - Chevrolet Camaro 1988 March 13 - Bobby Allison/Hueytown, AL - #22 - Buick LaSabre 1991 Sept 21 - Slick Yoemans/Corpus Christi, TX - #24 - Ford Thunderbird 1992 - April 11 - Slick Yoemans/High Point, NC - #24 - Ford Thunderbird 1993 - March 20 - Howard Willis III/Pasadena, TX - #23 - Chevrolet Lumina Texas Grand Prix list Compiled by: Neil Upchurch, Former Race Director, Texas Grand Prix at Texas World Speedway Assisted by: Cotton Sherland, Former Chief Inspector, Texas Grand Prix Bob Sherland, Former Inspector, Texas Grand Prix Russ Martin, Former, Public Address Announcer, Texas Grand Prix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trlrider Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 trlrider: After some additional research of my TWS records, I found the official list (with the exception of March 9, 1986. If anyone has the winner’s name of that Texas Grand Prix event, please post it here) Meanwhile since the record of the Texas Grand Prix has now been posted, you should post an apology for not understanding the difference between a Texas Grand Prix and a Texas Race of Champions. You’re apparently long standing anxiety; bias and misunderstanding upon which you based your post will then be excused. In that apology, you should consider congratulating all Texas World Speedway, Texas Grand Prix Officials who I employed for their fairness and forthright officiating of the 1985, not the 1984 event which you incorrectly criticized. Btw trlrider: Is your name Louis Upton? Yes Neil, my name is Louis Upton - many on this forum knows who I am, using that screen name, which I have used since for many many years! I am not hiding or trying to be someone that I am not! Yes, I confused the Texas Grand Prix and TROC races, it has been many years since I have seen that trophy, and in discussion several weeks ago about the fun days of racing (well mostly) the parties involved we mixed up also! Your right Neil! Perfect as ever! Louis Upton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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