i37DirtTrackMama Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 After working with the Dwarf car officials that raced at I-37 last year I learned the benefits of the raceceivers but have 2 reservations: the additional cost to drivers which would amount to $125.00 and up and putting legal radios in cars. Keeping the races moving at a good pace is a concern for all race tracks to keep fans entertained, involved and returning on a weekly basis so any improvement is considered. We want to know what the racers of I-37 think about this possibility as this is something we would consider doing if we get positive feedback. We want to work with the racers and have this a management/racer decision. The final decision will be made by the track but want to hear what you think. Eric Knudtson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 From my personal experience I am totally in favor of it without a doubt. If used properly they can be a major asset to the track. I am not in favor of additional expense however this type of expense is different. If used correctly you can almost eliminate officials from being on the track which is an obvious big safety factor and also the overall show should be more efficient which will make everyone involved happier and again safer! Very small sacrifice to make for those that do not already have one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 In my travels, I've seen they have their pluses and minuses.....Dry erase/chalk boards are nearly as efficient and a lot less expensive....JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybox racing Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Iam all for radios, spotters can keep your car from being torn up and relay any info to get u lined up quick. In don't know why tracks dislike the use of radios, but in most cases it makes for better racing, Just my 2 cents. Of course I already have radios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Iam all for radios, spotters can keep your car from being torn up and relay any info to get u lined up quick. In don't know why tracks dislike the use of radios, but in most cases it makes for better racing, Just my 2 cents. Of course I already have radios. Raceceivers aren't like radios. They are more like a scanner in the sense that is one-way communication. The track can communicate with the driver to let them know a number of things from line-ups to cautions. Reb, I'll give you that dry erase boards are cheaper without and argument but I have never seen where they are as effecient as properly used raceceivers IME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancer52 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I like them...but there not perfect...half the time we have used them...the track never spoke...so..it didnt help anyway. AND yes...a good dry erase board work PERFECT.....but...its another person on the track..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd9 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 i would have to by two sets but feel the benefits from them will outway the cost! if the track personnel will use them properly and clearly they are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Day Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 The RaceCeiver system is great, I have used it over the years at different tracks and it works great. It does speed the show up, keep personal off the track, etc. In my opinion it is the best way to go. Now heres something else you need to know Thunderhill has used the system for atleast 3 to 4 years now and it works great and you dont have to used the RaceCeiver, you can use a $50.00 scanner from Radio Shack and tune it to the Raceceiver channel and it works the same. In the long run, it will help out the drivers and teams letting them know about cautions and track cituations. The savings in torn up race cars will no doubt be well worth the cost of the RaceCeiver/Scanner. Rick Day Former General Manager - San Antonio Speedway Former Race Director - Thunderhill Raceway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champkrt1 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I think in the grand scheme of all the money we spend on our racing, the cost of Racecievers is a drop in the bucket. For me, I would classify their purchases as Safety Equiptment, which always has the highest priority in my books. 100% for the use of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones41 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I used one in Edna for the first time last year, they let me know I had a flat right away, so I'm all in favor for them. Anything that will keep the show going and fans more involved is always greeeat! Jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones41 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I used one in Edna for the first time last year, they let me know I had a flat right away, so I'm all in favor for them. Anything that will keep the show going and fans more involved is always greeeat! Jmo. And plus, I have to work on Sunday mornings!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Racing Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 The TOMS car used the race receivers and seemed to work really well. But like anything you have to have a track official talk loud, clear and not talk like a auctioneer. I would be in favor of this race receiver as long as the receiver can only receive the transmissions from the track personnel and not from their pit crew also. Maybe this will eliminate using phones with bluetooth. Maybe you can rent the receivers to the fans like Nascar!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC57 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I like them...but there not perfect...half the time we have used them...the track never spoke...so..it didnt help anyway. That's not a lack of functionality on the part of the Raceceiver, but the Raceceiver operator. The Raceceiver is not a panacea for what ails the track. It can provide no more of a resolution than a whiteboard, a bullhorn, or traffic guard with a whistle and an orange vest. I would not expect, out of a track that takes a long time to reset the running order during a caution, to miraculously speed up the order reset if and when once Raceceivers are utilized. This calls for improvements in the process, not the instrument. It all depends on how the instrument of choice is utilized. And if properly utilized, you cannot only eliminate having to place a track official on the track to reset the order, you might be able to eliminate a lengthy caution. For example, coming in over the Raceceive “Caution Caution, spun car coming out of 4.” And for those who don’t look farther than the end of their hood, they may avoid the spun car, possibly eliminating the need to dispatch the wrecker. Also, it’s nice to hear “Halfway/crossed flags” or “Five Laps” left. Eliminates having to look up at the flag stand, but is great for when you’re sitting in staging and wondering how much longer until you roll out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprintsrule Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Chalk boards are limited in the information that can be given. It takes an entire pace lap to get back to the board. If you have three sets of cars out of line that is a minimum of three laps (if they all pay attention the first time ). Lots of information can be given on the radio in one lap. Every pace lap run drags the show out and keeps some fan from returning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior27 Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 dont know if it applies to all classes but im for it so is my dad. getting the show done in a timely manner is always a plus. i gotta admitt before racing as a spectator it was always a "idk" "it might get late" typa thing for being the reason not heading to the track. i want to see more spectators and heck even family friends to head to 1-37 to see some great exciting racing. jmo -emmett and ramon sevilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Something else nobody has said. If your brand new race engine is losing oil or water but not smoking and the race is staying green who knows maybe they see it and tell you to get your butt in the pits and save yourself a major expense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 CREWMEMBER Posted February 25, 2011 Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Used them a few times. They are great and really help a show move on and cut down on people on the track trying to line cars up. love em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodwayracing18 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 We have never used them. But if it makes the show faster and safer then were all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97car Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Just use scanners, that is what TPS has done for the past 7-8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer71 Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 I like the idea of useing a raceceiver,as long as track officials are the only ones talking to the drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Just use scanners, that is what TPS has done for the past 7-8 years. you beat me to it ...just depends on how much talking goes on ......they help speed up the show .help with line up and letting you know where the problem is on the track . letting everyone know when to line up ....its a good system .......but can get you wrecked if used to tell you to move over sometimes ..but the positive is a good over the bad ......the only thing ...cost ..maybe cheap for some .but costly to others .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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