Bar2248 Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 I would just like everyones opion about the T/C in the romco devision?? Does it make for better racing in the series, or is it goin to cause problems??What happens when the guys who do have it goes to another series to race and can't have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Personally I think TC is a crutch. as is soaking the tires, they should not be allowed. The driver should have to drive the car, not rely on tc to get up off the corner. Big John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 After the first race in Houston, I did not see it helping anyone much, if any at all. The 8 car, who does not have tc, was running away with the race (74 laps), until lap cars, (one of them had TC) wrecked in front of him and he had nowhere to go. I believe the race winner had TC, and he was running a strong second before taking the lead due to the crash. The 8 & 99 were about to lap some Romco regulars that had taction contol. It is too early to tell what effect it will have on the series until a race is run at each track. I dont think it will have much to do with the outcome of races, only the reputation of the series and crush development of the drivers and crew chiefs who use it. My question is......... Can a winner of a race that has TC really be proud of himself and his crew after the race? I dont think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meredith race engines Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 NO DOUG HOOKS DOES NOT HAVE TC (portion of post edited out by Nick Holt, 03-30-03) dont take away from doug being a good driver (portion of post edited out by Nick Holt, 03-30-03) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Reply or advertisement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin35251 Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 That would be a reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Kevin35251, Well, part of it was a reply and part of it was a plug. I have edited out the portion that was a plug. Nick Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 thanks nick, that was getting a little annoying. can anyone say HOER. Big John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 nah if I remember right HOER didnt like Colt so I doubt he would pull for Colt to drive an ASA car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 In my day the way to cheat was to use mercury to obtain an obscene amount of left side weight. There were cars so left side heavy that they would actually roll if the driver dared to turn to the right at speed. Then there was a host of rear end locking/unlocking devices that eventually became legal in some racing organizations. Next came analog telemetryand, later, digital telemetry. Of course, there has been cheating in the engine compartment in one form or another for as long as there have been stock car races. Anyone can buy a cheater carb and bolt it on. Or get hold of some treated gas or figure out a way to soak the tires without melting the rubber off. To me, all of these things take away from the sport. I'm with gasman on this one. If you have to cheat to win then you are not a winner. Period. Just because the ROMCO rules do not ban it does not make it right. ROMCO admits that it is allowing it simply because they do not know how to check for it. Nick Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy5249 Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 I dont like the T/C I think the driver should have to drive the car and not rely on an electronic device to help him off the turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meredith race engines Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 NONE of that was a plug he was taking away from those guys who have worked hard and there hard work payed off without the use of tc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Meredith Race Engines, In Jason's and my opinions, a portion of your message was a legitimate reply and portion was a plug for two racing related businesses. In fact, Jason has specifically requested that I keep a closer check on certain businesses who seem to be using the forum sections to promote their businesses. As I have mentioned elsewhere, TSZ welcomes paid advertising but prohibits non-paid advertising. Both Jason and I are committed to keeping TSZ a place where the Texas racing community can share information and discuss issues in a well-moderated environment. Thanks for your understanding. Nick Holt TSZ Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar2248 Posted March 30, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 Doug doesn't have T/C that I know of, so good job to him winning the first race of this year. But my opion on T/C is it never should have become legal. If thats what you got to do to look good and win, then your not a good driver. And not real sure if the #8 car crew was just joking around with me or what but and " Do you know how to hook up T/C" MY reply: No we don't have it. I think they were just tryin to find out who has it and who doesn't, but why should you worry about it if your fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin35251 Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 I hate to say this but I dont think the #8 has Traction Control, and if they do they've had it since they started running Romco. They have been very consistant with or without Traction Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin35251 Posted March 30, 2003 Report Share Posted March 30, 2003 I would also like to state that its not just the driver that wins races and all we are doing is congratulating the teams and giving them a little recognition. I think we should atleast be able to give the teams credit, even if the team has decided to make it a full time job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romco??? Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 the #8 does not have t/c. and everybody knows not to believe half of what brandon and the crew tells you because they are constantly joking around with everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meredith race engines Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 THANK YOU KEVIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 Shoving MRE and URS down our throats in every post WILL NOT happen. In fact I have gotten several complaints about it and it probably does more bad than good to the 2 businesses. It turns me away because of how annoying it gets. If you have a problem with it email me. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 Brandon dosent have TC, i dont think he has enough motor to use it. his car gets through the corners better than any car i have seen in a long while. those guys like to joke around alot, have take most of what they say with a grain of salt. Big John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin35251 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 does anyone know who does have traction control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASPEEDRACER24 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 I would have to say that I doubt very seriously that Brandon would have TC mainly becasue he doesn't need it. He has been a very consistant driver wherever he has driven weither it be at SAS THR or HMS. Everyone will have their own view no matter how good a driver gets. Instead of worrying about who has or doesn't have TC, becasue it is legal no matter how you feel about, some of us need to pat the backs of the guys that win unless something is proven otherwise. All these accusations go absolutely no-where becasue no-one has any proof. Unless you know don't go trying to ruin a drivers reputation. You may not like a driver, the way he drives, or the money he spends, that doesn't mean you need to take other people down with you. My congrats go out to Doug Hooks on his win and I hope he does well at THR next Sat. I know this won't clear the air but thats my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar2248 Posted March 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 IM not tryin to take anyting away form the #8 team, casue i know that they are good. Just saying that in my opion, a good driver shouldn't have to have T/C. (IT will help at CC though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin35251 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 I agree saspeedracer24, I dont think anyone was accusing Brandon of having traction control. I was stating that brandon was a good driver and that he was very consistant. Maybe some poeple are curious that he does have Traction Control but that shouldnt get to anyone. Everyone has to put up with it. I remember last year when J.C. Umscheid qualified Doug Hooks car for the Big Shot 250 and the Romco officials took the car and checked it for traction control. Nothing was found and it is not allowed in that business or race team. It was just something that they had to prove. Dont let it get to you, your gonna see things you dont like or dont agree with on this website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASPEEDRACER24 Posted March 31, 2003 Report Share Posted March 31, 2003 It wasn't really getting to me I just don't like it when accusations are thrown around with really no proof. And that goes for any driver not just Brandon. As far as Im concerned I don't like the idea of TC in fact there are alot more cheaper ways to bend the rules that won't make you look as bad vs. being labeled with the moniker of needing TC to aid you around the track. If you catch my drift. Not saying that anyone bends the rules cause I really don't know..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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