Boerneracehounds50 Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 With the Bristal ban, there is a place in this artical where it says out door sport areas, hmmmmm wonder what that exactly is. this is from the quadcities.com Iowa House approves public smoking ban StoryDiscussionFont Size: Default font size Larger font size By Charlotte Eby | Wednesday, February 20, 2008 | 14 comment(s) DES MOINES — The Iowa House approved a broad public smoking ban tonight that would prohibit smoking in restaurants, bars and most workplaces but still allow smoking in state-licensed casinos and private events at certain veterans clubs. The passage of the bill was hailed as a victory by clean-air advocates. Backers of House File 2212, which passed on a 56-44 vote, cited public health concerns as the reason for their support. Opponents of the ban argued business owners should set their own smoking policies and complained casinos weren’t also subject to a ban. Rep. Janet Petersen, a Des Moines Democrat, has pushed for the ban. “I’m ecstatic,” Petersen said after the vote. “Iowans are going to be so happy.” Rep. Tyler Olson, D-Cedar Rapids, who guided debate on the bill, cited statistics he said show more than 400 Iowans die every year from diseases caused by second-hand smoke. “Any amount of exposure to second-hand smoke carries a significant risk, significant health detriment that can lead to death,” Olson said. “We’re not just talking about the public health of customers here, we’re talking about the public health of workers, not all of whom have the choice of their place of employment.” If enacted, Iowa’s proposed law would go into effect on July 1 and would be enforced by the Iowa Department of Public Health. People who smoke in prohibited areas could face a civil penalty of $50 per violation. Business owners and operators who fail to comply with the law could face a penalty of up to $100 for the first violation. A penalty of up to $200 could be imposed for a second violation within one year and up to a $500 penalty for subsequent violations. Rep. Carmine Boal, R-Ankeny, unsuccessfully tried to wipe casinos off the list of place that would be exempted from going smoke-free. The House narrowly resisted an attempt to exempt farm businesses from the ban. The last time the Iowa House held a smoking debate was 1993, when the House voted to require that small restaurants and other enclosed public places designate areas for non-smokers if they allowed smoking. Passage of the smoking ban in the House sends the bill to the Senate for consideration. Gov. Chet Culver will sign a statewide smoking ban if it passes the Legislature, Culver spokesman Brad Anderson said. Charlotte Eby can be reached at (515) 243-0138 or chareby@aol.com. WHERE COULD YOU SMOKE? Under the bill that passed Tuesday in the Iowa House, smoking would be forbidden in the following: restaurants, bars, child care facilities, indoor sporting arenas, outdoor sports arenas except in designated areas, concert halls, health care provider locations such as doctor’s offices, polling places, retail stores, laundromats, outdoor restaurant or eating areas, public transit stations, school grounds including parking lots and playgrounds, and within 10 feet of any entrance to a public place or business. Smoking would be permitted in the following: private residences, designated hotel or motel rooms, private and semi-private rooms in long-term care facilities, private citizens’ vehicles, vehicles owned by a business for the sole use by one individual, scientific research facilities or smoking cessation programs, the Iowa Veterans Home, casinos, tracks, closed-door events at posts of veterans’ organizations and retail tobacco stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 That's a mighty slippery slope when one group starts singling out certain other members of the population to discriminate against. Once it starts, where does it stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 That's a mighty slippery slope when one group starts singling out certain other members of the population to discriminate against. Once it starts, where does it stop? bud this has been going on for years some poeple rights get stomp on .... i bet some of those poeple smoke pipes .and cigars ... and drink and drive ..... now if we can just ban all cars trucks buses ..motor bikes .lawn mower. boats ..four wheelers ..pocket rockets ..airplanes ..helicopters ..army tanks ..navy jets ..air force .. and any othe damn thing that can kill you second hand the world and my health will be much nicer ..oh cut out the booze .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 That's a mighty slippery slope when one group starts singling out certain other members of the population to discriminate against. Once it starts, where does it stop? It doesn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Here is an excellent example Rosie. Last summer I was sitting in the stands at THR, watching the races, minding my own business. Then along comes this woman, and sits down right square in front of me. Totally exposed to me was one of the most hidious sights I've ever encountered. She had a tattoo emblazened on her upper back. I tried to ignore it, but soon found the sight of it to be so utterly disgusting that nausea set in. I found I was forced to get up and move in order to keep from vomiting. In my opinion, this absolutely is a public health issue. No tattood female should ever be allowed at ANY public gathering, anywhere! There ought to be a law! I'm calling my representative tomorrow to get the ball started rolling on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Buddy, I agree. I am writing my congressman right after I finish this. I am going a step further and recommending a separate section in the stands for tattooed women only. Might as well get in on the frenzy that seems to be the trend these days, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Its good to see we have other like-minded "Progressive Thinking" visionaries on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tqj3 Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I smoked, and at a time when nearly half the population did likewise. Despite that, it was customary to ask others it they minded if you smoked before you lit up. The analogy keeps being used that smoking next to someone is no different than drinking next to someone, so they shouldn't get upset. But that's a flawed analogy. Sitting next to someone and having a drink doesn't involve anyone else unless you get drunk and rowdy. The correct anology would be if someone sat next to you, spilled his drink on you several times, and even insisted you have a couple of drinks, too. Somehow, I think you all would react a little more strongly to that, and would insist they respect your right not to smell like booze or be forced to swallow any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 TQ, My analogy is dead on in the context of having government sponsored and enforced discrimnation against certain segments of society. Thats the point I'm trying to make. If it can happen to one group, it can happen to others. We need to be very wary of this government enforced discrimination. As I said, it's a very slippery slope we're treading on. Now, about my example. I'm not serious, of course. I really couldn't care less how someone else chooses or chooses not to decorate his or her body. That was just an example I borrowed from another thread. Regarding your example of the public consumption of alcohol, I've experienced that also. Only a couple of years ago at SAS I found myself seated near a small group of loud, rowdy, obnoxious, inebriated individuals. I simply moved away from them to another place in the stands. I didn't feel compelled to call upon the government to intervene on my behalf. Oh, and thanks Dano for playing along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 I knew where you were coming from Buddy and I agree with you 100 percent..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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