tqj3 Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Hmiel was suspended for violations of the NASCAR drug policy, but they've left the door open for him to come back after he undergoes counseling, etc. (See nascar.com.) Is that enough, or should he be gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I'll admit up front that my views on this topic are usually stronger than others, but I'd say boot him for good. This must be one of the first, if not THE first, incident of substance abuse to "surface" in NASCAR. I think they need to take this opportunity to take a very strong stance against it for the good of NASCAR in the future. Dope has no place in motorsports, and I think they should send a message that conveys that. Chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegend96 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I would have to agree with Chase but in some respects people do make mistakes. 3 year suspension from Nascar with random drug test at Nascars discresion and driver expense. When thats over lets see if the driver still has the want, the skills, and the clear head to compete. Assuming that they complete the mandated sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I would have drug tested him too after his move at Richmond. lol I agree with Chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 From NASCAR.COM Hmiel suspended for substance abuse To return, driver must undergo counseling, random testing From Press Releases September 18, 2003 7:52 PM EDT (2352 GMT) DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- NASCAR officials have suspended driver Shane Hmiel indefinitely pursuant to sections 12-4-A: Actions detrimental to stock car racing; and 12-4-E: Violation of the NASCAR Substance Abuse Policy as set forth in the 2003 NASCAR rulebook. The suspension will remain in effect until Hmiel meets the terms and conditions as set forth by NASCAR for future reinstatement. To that end, NASCAR will require Hmiel to attend counseling and undergo periodic random testing. "NASCAR has a zero tolerance for any type of behavior in violation of our Substance Abuse Policy," said NASCAR President Mike Helton. "While our primary responsibility is the safety of our drivers and our fans, we also have a moral responsibility to protect the integrity of our sport." To emphasize the critical importance of a substance-free sport, NASCAR, in 1988, created its Substance Abuse Policy. The policy provides for testing under reasonable suspicion, an approach that is well suited to NASCAR because of the close and continuing contact between our officials and our competitors. As a result, Hmiel was released by Innovative Motorsports, his Busch Series team. Jeff Green will take over driving duties of the No. 48 Chevrolet for this weekend's Stacker 200 at Dover. "First and foremost, our entire organization wants to apologize to our sponsors, NASCAR, each of the NASCAR competitors, and our fans due to the recent developments surrounding this situation," said IMI team owner George deBidart. "We certainly do not condone this type of behavior, and we fully support NASCAR in its decision." The team owner added that the team will now institute a drug testing policy for all employees. --------------------------------------------------- It's certainly not the first, remember how they crucified Tim Richmond, only to find out later that it was medication he was taking to combat the HIV virus. Then, was it Mike Skinners son, who got busted with drugs being transported in his race car, though he was only a member of the NASCAR weekly racing series. There is an unfortunate history of this kinda stuff in racing, ie; John Paul Sr & Jr, Scott Bloomquist and a few other big names that escape me right now. Plus all those little names that go unreported in mainstream media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin35251 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 what was it that shane hmeil was using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbeaver087 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 i agree wiyh chase too, beacause it would be like if you had a guy building your race car on druges the cage my not be as good if he was not on druges . i dont even drink if i know im going to work on a race car cauese i dont want to put any body in a place where they may get hurt just my.02 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racecar25 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 now we know why he (sometimes) drives the way he did like when he took out jason keller at richmond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfrebel Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 chase, he isn't the first, that brian rose guy (or whatever his name was) was suspended earlier this year, and a year or two ago sammy potaschnick (sp?) got arrested during speedweeks under the influence of crack, and i'm sure there were others that I forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 i seem to remember a jamie skinner being busted for something similar. i may be wrong, which i am all the time. as i see it, there is no room for drugs of any type in nascar/racing. I have heard stories of local guys doing things that nascar would probally not like too much, of corse i cant say who or what because of sources and unreliable info. bottom line is, if you mess with this stuff, its gonna end your career, one way or another. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modracer Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 The way I see they are no different than anyone else. If I was tested at my job for drugs I and came back with a positive result I wouldnt have a job. He needs to set an example for all others to follow and if thats what he wants NASCAR should not allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoom Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 He needs to be booted permanently. No NASCAR license on any level ever again. Loss of talent, sure. But believe me there are hundreds that can take his place. With a zero tolerance of drugs, send the message. you have to back up your rules or like my dad always said, " you let your aligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass" just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I'd have to go with a ban from NASCAR. I'm not a driver, but I wouldn't want to be out there with some idiot that is on any of that crap, and by the same token, I don't want the drivers I help out locally out there with anyone on that stuff. Every job I've had since High School was subject to random testing, and the penalty was simple--Immediate termination, with no chance of ever returning to that company. In the case of my Military years, a bad conduct discharge, comparable to a felony conviction. If I can accept those terms, so can Hmeil. Don't worry about any potential loss of talent. There are a bunch of drivers better than Hmeil out there who would never take another aspririn if given a chance to drive that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Don't worry about any potential loss of talent. There are a bunch of drivers better than Hmeil out there who would never take another aspririn if given a chance to drive that car. Amen to that Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonestar88 Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I have to speak my peace here...... Amen to all that want to remove that young man. With all the guys working there tails off to get to the BIG SHOW theres no room for that crap.....Drugs piss me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Oh no! You don't think ROMCO is going to drug test do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDaddy Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Scott Bloomquist looks like the kinda guy to be on that stuff. Maybe its just the long hair? But anyway, I think as most of yall think that he should be kicked out forever. Like TxTom said, theres a ton of drivers out there that would never even take another tylenol if they could be in the seat of that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.