Truck99 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 We left the awards ceremony pretty quick after the ceremony was over. I forgot to ask about tires. Did anybody happen to hear if they have selected a tire brand yet? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 My understanding is nothing should be changing with the THR classes... only the TSRS tires are in question.. Again.. my understand from conversations with jack... TSRS was having a hard time with flat tires on the f53's... and they are looking for a resolution.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 i hope for their sake(the drivers) the series doesnt cut off a mole and replace it with cancer..............the AR. i ran on the f-53 for awhile , and it is not a good LIFE tire. but i hope the series will work with hoosier. as for us..........LIFE wise, i hope we stick with the 970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted January 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 For its longevity, the 970 has my vote also. Seems like years ago the LM class ran on the 970 tire also. Maybe they should look to the past for their answer. Of course, I could just be tempted by the idea of the availability of LM take-offs again like the old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Why does it have to be the tires fault? As long as everyone is on the same tire the playinf field is even. As far as flats go, im willing to bet that most of the flats are from debris caused by the racer him self, i wouldnt be to quick to blame the tire brand. Any tire will go flat with a pop rivet stuck in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 JC.. its not an attack on the tire.... "TSRS was having a hard time with flat tires on the f53's... and they are looking for a resolution.." Flat tires cost racers $... so if its putting a magnet on the pace/car/truck to try and pick them up.. So be it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBELRACER Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 ar's go flat while parked in the garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termite#99 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 This all you have to do. Buy a brand new AR, air it up, spray some soap and water mix on the sidewalls and watch the air leaking from the sidewalls. So with that said, I hope we stay with the 970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrungot Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 For giggles i just went out to the car and checked air pressures.. Last time they got air was at the Spectacular... Lost 2 lbs of air since.. 970's.... not to mention how many races i get out to the Hoosier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBELRACER Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 if they were american racers, they would have been flat........the tires are just junk........wish sas would go back with hoosiers......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Why does it have to be the tires fault? As long as everyone is on the same tire the playinf field is even. As far as flats go, im willing to bet that most of the flats are from debris caused by the racer him self, i wouldnt be to quick to blame the tire brand. Any tire will go flat with a pop rivet stuck in it. no one is blaming the tire for going flat , just want one that has a longer life. not all of us got money [edited out by Nick Holt, 1/7/06] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 seen alot of racers that act like they do-lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Everyone knows we sell Hoosiers, so we are biased, but here's something to take into consideration. The F53 and the 970 have the same role out. The F53 is an all-out racing tire with 2 ply side wall and soft rubber compound. The 970 also has a 2 ply sidewall, but the compound is harder and it is treaded. Hoosier has tried to compensate by making it 1" wider than the F53. The F53 is not meant to be driven on rocks like we do in the pits at THR and SAS. I know there is some talk of going to the Goodyear or American Racer. That's the reason I mentioned roll-out. We have raced on both and the both have less roll-out than the Hoosiers. We had to change gearing. Those with quickchanges will not be hurt too bad, but those with 9" will be in for some expense. The goodyear is about the same as the 970 as far as longivity is concerned, but they do leak down like the AR's (maybe not quite as fast). The AR is just plain junk. That is the worst tire I've seen. It is built with the same casing the IMCA G60 uses which is a 4 ply sidewall and hard rubber (it will stand up with no air ) If you want the maximum performance and good air preasure tuning ability, stick with the F53. If you want longivity, but still have an air tunable tire go to the 970. Goodyears are OK but you'll have to spend some money getting your gearing right. Please stay away from the AR's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE44 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Jason you have a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCHUCK Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 It would be good to see TSRS go to the 970's and have all the classes at THR run 970's.JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGural Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Hray's earlier post does explain why we definitely had more flats with the F53's and when we ran them previously, the 970's did last longer and saved $$$. We do not have actual experience with the Goodyears, but tallking to others, they last longer and would prevent the 'Gotta have new tires' syndrome. The teams with more resources putting 4 stickers on every time the cars hit the track. We feel that if you save racers money and run a tire that last longer, it benifits everyone evenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Tommy, The Goodyear and the 970 have the same longivity, but the Goodyear is smaller (quite a bit smaller). We were running a 620 gear at THR and HMP. We went to a 600 and that was still a little too high. If you want to save the racers the most, go to the 970, that way everything stays the same. I also agree with SSCHUCK, put everyone on 970's so the lower classes can have the take-offs. If you're worried about the well funded teams buying stickers for each race, limit the tires to 2 new each race. Of course, as we all know from experience, tire decisions aren't always made in the best interest of the racer. Sometimes $$$ get involved. Hopefully THR will not fall into that mode of operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBELRACER Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 tire decisions aren't always made in the best interest of the racer. Sometimes $$$ get involved boy that aint no lie...........it was nice when the sportsman class could get takeoffs from the late models, but now the lm are on 10" tires you cant do that anymore..........and with the life of the ar, it really ends up hurting the underfunded teams........of coarse everyone knows that racing is expensive, blah, blah, blah, but when you can help the racers out a little by allowing them to purchase 1 and 2 race tires from the upper class for a little cheaper price, it can only help in the long run.......jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEEDDUDE Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 This topic of tires is of great interest to me. Last year, due to a cut tire, I hit the wall, bounced off and was hit by another car, resulting in a totaled racecar. That being said, I don’t think the tires are to blame completely. I’ve raced on Hoosiers, Goodyear’s, and radials at the same track that this incident occurred and had problems with all three tires. All the tires had similar problems, may-be run the sweep truck a few times during the course of the night, more specially after a wreck. As far as saving the racers money, I don’t see any savings. As pointed out, new gears for each of the tracks. I and a few others own Ford 9” rears, more costly to change than a Q/C. Tires, we’ll need 8, 4 to practice on and 4 to race with any hopefully we wont get another flat. I’m happy with the F53’s, If there is a change I would hope that there is a transition phase to use up all our tires we already own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I used up the tires I have last season.... . ...but I do like the 970's and it would be nice for the underfunded guys(like me) to get cheap hand me downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 I read the SUPER STOCK rules, they say Hoosier 970, hopefully that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrss1 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 i wasnt able to get a rule book at the banquet. so my question is where did you read em rodney? i vote for the 970 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 my cousin went on Saturday, he came back with a set of 07 rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrss1 Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 10-4 i was a bafoon and didnt even look for one. thanks chase for the email i got em. good luck everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 I think the rules they passed out at the banquet say "tires to be determined". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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