maz1438 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 impressive neil how do you account for the last 16 races . well Oldtimer, i guess you can chalk that up to driver errors and mechanical problems, because as everyone has seen, the Fords are just as fast or faster than pretty much these cars that won the last 16 races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 impressive neil how do you account for the last 16 races . The consistant winners over the past 16 races are Sergio Hexsel and Donnie Moore. From my vantage point, I'd say both those teams have worked hard at getting their weight percentages close to where the rules allow, have worked hard at putting consistant, fast suspensions under their cars, put in the shop time required to insure that their race car is properly prepared, practice at every available opportunity and show up for every race. Nick Holt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie49 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 3 years ago I became familiar with TPS racing. What I saw were three Ford mustangs absolutely run off and leave everyone except a little blue and white BMW. It was absolutely boring to watch. He seemed to finish 2d or 3d every time because one or two of the mustangs would take themselve out. I don't recall hearing all these Ford people complaining that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilTPS Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Texas Pro Sedan Race Winners Last Six Years – Last 73 Races There have been numerous conflicting comments as to how even or un-even racing between the various makes is in the Texas Pro Sedan Series. Most of the comments appear to have been made without correct statistics available to the person making comment. The following race records, which document the last six years and 73 races, should provide an exact count from which accurate opinions may be based. Neil Upchurch Race & Administrative Director Texas Pro Sedans Race Date/Track/Race Winner/Hometown/Car/cc/Margin/Car Count (Remarks) 2001 (12 races): April 14/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/Honda CRX/1645/3.0sec/19 cars April 28/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bucky Hutchinson/Austin/VW Scirocco/1628/1.6sec/20 cars May 12/San Antonio Speedway/Stephen Edmondson/Joshua/Toyota Corrola/1960/2.8sec/15 cars May 26/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bucky Hutchinson/Austin/VW Scirocco/1628/3.0 sec/17 cars June 9/San Antonio Speedway/Bucky Hutchinson/Austin/VW Scirocco/1628/.68sec/20 cars June 16/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bucky Hutchinson/Austin/VW Scirocco/1628/2.7sec/17 cars July 7/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bucky Hutchinson/Austin/VW Scirocco/1870/.75sec/15 cars July 21/San Antonio/Leroy Farmer/San Antonio/Ford Mustang/2338/8 sec/21 cars (w/o rp) July 28/Thunder Hill Raceway/Mike Knotts/Universal City/VW Scirocco/1860/2.0sec/16 cars Aug 18/Thunder Hill Raceway/Stephen Edmondson/Joshua/ToyotaCorrola/1960/.50sec/17 cars Sept 15/Thunder Hill Raceway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/2.0sec/18 cars (w/o rp) Oct 13/San Antonio Speedway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/2.5 sec/23 cars (w/o rp) 2002 (14 races): March 30/Thunder Hill/Leroy Farmer/San Antonio/Ford Mustang/2338/2sec/18 cars(w/o rp) April 13/San Antonio Speedway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/0.5sec/17 cars (w/o rp) May 11/San Antonio Speedway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/1.2sec/19 cars (w/o rp) May 25/Thunder Hill Raceway/Randy Lee/ Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/3.0/sec/14 cars (w/o rp) June 8/Thunder Hill/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/1.5sec/15 cars (w/o rp) June 15/San Antonio/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/0.5/sec/21 cars (w/o rp) July 13/San Antonio/Leroy Farmer/San Antonio/Ford Mustang/2238/0.5/sec/19 cars (w/o rp) July 27/Thunder Hill Raceway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/0.3/sec/17 cars (w/o rp) Aug 3/San Antonio/Randy Lee/ Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/1.19sec/16 cars(w/o rp) August 17/San Antonio/Leroy Farmer/ San Antonio/Ford Mustang/2338/1.23sec/18 cars (w/o rp) August 24/Thunder Hill/Leroy Farmer/SA/Ford Mustang/2338/8.0sec/13 cars (w/o rp) Sept 14/Thunder Hill Raceway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1873/0.4sec/18 cars Oct 12/San Antonio Speedway/Steve Foster/Adkins/Ford Mustang/2338/24 cars (w/o rp) Nov 23/Thunder Hill Raceway/Sergio Hexsel/San Antonio/VW Scirocco/1984/1.10sec/19 cars 2003 (12 races): April 5/Thunder Hill Raceway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/0.09sec/12 cars (w/rp) April 26/San Antonio Speedway/Jack Dishman/Devine/Ford Mustang/2338/0.68sec/17 cars (w/rp) May 3/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2083/2.0sec/12 cars May 17/Thunder Hill Raceway/Randy Lee/ Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/2.0sec/11 cars (w/rp) May 31/San Antonio Speedway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2083/1.04sec/12 June 21/Houston Speedway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/0.4sec/14 cars(w/rp) July 12/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2083/1.50/sec/16 cars July 19/San Antonio Speedway/Jack Dishman/Devine/Ford Mustang/2338/1.70sec/11 cars (w/rp) August 2/Thunder Hill Raceway/Randy Lee/ Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/3.90sec/15 cars (w/rp) August 23/Thunder Hill Raceway/Jack Dishman/Devine/Ford Mustang/2338/0.44sec/13 cars (w/rp) Sept 6/Thunder Hill Raceway/Randy Lee/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/3.00sec/18 cars (w/rp) Oct 18/San Antonio Speedway/Jack Dishman/Devine/Ford Mustang/2338/0.22sec/22 cars (w/rp) 2004 (12 races): April 17/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2083/0.50sec/17 May 8/Thunder Hill Raceway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/1.75sec/17 May 29/C.C. Motor Speedway/Lalo Leal/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338//0.75sec/17 (w/o rp) June 5/San Antonio Speedway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/1.06sec/16 June 19/Thunder Hill Raceway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/3.76sec/16 Jul 10/San Antonio Speedway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/0.78 sec/13 cars July 17/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2083/0.79 sec/14 cars July 31/C.C. Motor Speedway/Lalo Leal/Corpus Christi/Ford Mustang/2338/6.60 sec/16 cars (w/rp) August 7/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2083/1.99 sec/15 cars Sept 11/C.C. Motor Speedway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/0.09sec/18 cars Sept/25/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bryce Dishman/Devine/Ford Mustang/2338/0.11 sec/18 cars Oct/16/San Antonio Speedway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2083/0.60 sec/24 cars 2005 (11 races): April 9/C.C. Motor Speedway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/3.00 sec/23 cars May 7/Thunder Hill Raceway/Jack Dishman/Devine/Ford Mustang/2338svo/0.75 sec//21 cars (w/rp) May 14/San Antonio/Jesse Sandoval/Corpus Christi/Ford Pinto/2338/arca/ 0.08 sec/16 cars (w/rp) May 28/Thunder Hill Raceway/Sergio Hexsel/San Antonio/VW Rabbit/2042/3.00 sec/22 cars June 18/Thunder Hill Raceway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/3.00 sec/20 cars July 9/C.C. Motor Speedway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1710/1.50 sec/17 cars July 30/Thunder Hill Raceway/Bill LaBarge/Bryan/BMW/2085/9.00 sec/14 cars August 20/San Antonio Speedway/Sergio Hexsel/San Antonio/VW Rabbit/20420.38 sec/15 cars August 27/Thunder Hill Raceway/Sergio Hexsel/San Antonio/VW Rabbit/2042/1.00 sec/14 cars Sept 10/Thunder Hill Raceway/Sergio Hexsel/San Antonio/VW Rabbit/2042/0.30 sec/11 cars Oct 22/Thunder Hill Raceway/Lloyd Hart/San Antonio/HondaCRX/1834-4 valve/0.50 sec/19 cars 2006 (12 races): March 11/USRA @ San Antonio Speedway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/0.68 sec/19 cars April 15/San Antonio Speedway (Twin)/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/7.35 sec/23 cars April 15/San Antonio Speedway (Twin)/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/10.60 sec/23 cars April 29/Thunder Hill Raceway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/1.41 sec/18 cars May 27/Thunder Hill Raceway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/3.51 sec/14 cars July 15/San Antonio Speedway (Twin)/Tom Johnson/Kingsland/VW Rabbit/1816/4.76 sec/19 cars July 15/San Antonio Speedway (Twin)/ Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/1.46 sec/19 cars July 22/Thunder Hill Raceway/ Sergio Hexsel/San Antonio/VW Rabbit/1984/1.30 sec/16 cars August 19/USRA @ San Antonio Speedway/Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/2.10 sec/16 cars Sept 2/Thunder Hill Raceway/Sergio Hexsel/Hutto/VW Rabbit/1984/1.39 sec/19 cars October 7/San Antonio Speedway/ Donnie Moore/Hutto/VW Scirocco/1690/3.80 sec/25 cars October 28/Thunder Hill Raceway/ Sergio Hexsel/Hutto/VW Rabbit/1984/1.01 sec/21 cars ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. BOX SCORE – BY CAR MAKES IN LAST 73 TPS RACES: April 14, 2001 thru October 29, 2006 VW Scirocco - 24 feature race wins FORD - 16 feature race wins - without restrictor plate (w/o rp) FORD – 13 feature race wins – with restrictor plate (w/rp) VW Rabbit - 8 feature race wins BMW - 8 feature race wins TOYOTA - 2 feature race wins HONDA - 2 feature race wins BOX SCORE – REAR WHEEL DRIVE vs FRONT WHEEL DRIVE IN LAST 73 TPS RACES: 2001 thru 2006 REAR WHEEL DRIVE - 39 TPS feature race wins FRONT WHEEL DRIVE - 34 TPS feature race wins TEXAS PRO SEDAN TRACK RECORDS AND HOLDERS (Last four years): Date – Track -- Record -- Driver/Type Car March 11, 2006--San Antonio Speedway --21.910 -- Bryce Dishman/Ford Mustang/2349-svo (w/o rp) July 9, 2005 ----- C.C. Motor Speedway --- 15.370 -- Donnie Moore/VW Scirocco/1710 April 17, 2004 -- Thunder Hill Raceway --- 16.830 -- Bill LaBarge/BMW/2085 June 21,2003 -- Houston Motor Speedway--16.017 --Randy Lee/Ford Mustang/2338-svo (w rp) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 49 .3 years ago was one thing last two years have been another . i dont blaime neil for doing what he thought he had to do to help his series .most series dont work at it enough . and i must not work on my car according to some poeples thoughts so maybe i need to retire .only thing is we say what we feel on here . i remember when lalo broke the track record on a race track he grew up on.and won that race seeing he had the advantage of knowing the track and one driver that has won some championships went over and saw there was no restrictor on lalo.s car .so after the tears roled down his cheeks so to speek .that plate was put back on by order of tps .even thow it was a test for tps and lalo .but as soon as lalo won someone cried and that was it .now sence then the track record was shatterd by three cars two fwd.s and the rwd car that didnt like lalo running without that restictor plate .but not one of them said a thing .they didnt go to tps and say you slowed him down to much. so they got what they wanted .and for the last two years we want the same fairness as they have gotten . and neil is working on it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariel66 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 As far as weight percentages i have no idea what they are on both cars, Sergio Hexsel i'd say yes he has a good handling car, as far as dominant Donnie Moore can't tell his car is ill handling or handling right cause he comes "almost" to a complete stop in corner entry, smoke comes from under his car every time, then just shoots out like a cannon ball once he exit's the corner, have video's on it. Not bashing him in anyway but he sure does have alot people confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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