xcellracing Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 I get around 22 on the hiway and about 18 in town, and it only drops slightly pulling a trailer loaded or my camper. I attribute my great gas milage to my truck being a 5 speed manual tranny, however in traffic my feet and leg get very tired holding in the clutch, but i get great gas milage and my left calf is the size of popeyes fore arms. 2000 ford cc diesle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahneFan Posted April 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I get around 22 on the hiway and about 18 in town, and it only drops slightly pulling a trailer loaded or my camper. I attribute my great gas milage to my truck being a 5 speed manual tranny, however in traffic my feet and leg get very tired holding in the clutch, but i get great gas milage and my left calf is the size of popeyes fore arms. 2000 ford cc diesle. I actually test drove an 04' single-cab stepside when I was looking. Just from the overnight test drive, I think I would've made up the MPG difference in tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 And Txtom, it would probably run so good you would give it away for a chevy. This could start a crap here but its all in fun F U#$ING O WNER R EALLY D UMB OR FORD BACKWARDS STANDS FOR Driver Returns On Foot LMAO Ahhh, yes, the old arguments! When I brought it home, my son gave me all kinds of crap about Fords. He drives a GMC Sonoma pick up. He got quiet after towing him home a few times. Funny, didn't bother him to go to Pensacola in it. Then he picked on his sister after she bought a ford. All the old "fix or repair daily" and the like. He left her alone after she explained that GMC not only stood for "gotta mechanic coming," but also "gay man's chevy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegend96 Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 The link provided is right on the money. One thing that has not been mentioned in this thread is the reasoning why this test was performed on a diesel. The average turbo charged engine uses approx 54 times the air that a normally aspirated gas engine does over the same amount of miles. Dirt getting by the filter will result in a "dusted" engine approx 54 times quicker in return. This is why there is such a great push for the diesel user not to use a K & N filter from the OEMs. Note you have a gas motor, so the rate at which air flows (and dirt)into the engine is much much less. Below is an excerpt taken from a friend of mine that works for the filter company Donaldson who makes the Powers Stroke OEM filter for us. He posted this on a diesel forum a couple of weeks ago. I have tested some of the washable/rechargeable type filters, but none for this specific application. I can say that from the results of what I have tested, that these type of filters have no place on MY Powerstroke Diesel. Normally, I will go and buy a system if the manufacturer says it performs better than the standard OEM PowerCore in all areas. All of those areas are: 1) Dust Loading: PowerCore in this application holds nearly 3 lbs of dirt and that is pretty hard to beat with any element of similar size. 2) Filtering Efficiency: PowerCore is 99.99% efficient, I have tested some popular competing elements in the past that have only achieved a 75% efficiency rating. This would mean when loaded to 3 lbs of dirt like the PowerCore, it would let 3/4 lb (340 grams) of that dirt pass directly to the engine(doing the math PowerCore stops all but about 1/10th of a gram). 100,000 rpm turbo blades do not like dirt. 3) Restriction: The OEM PowerCore is well under the Ford spec of 7" of H2O restriction at the flow rate of 775 cfm. As I stated in a previous post, I have tested competitors units that can't even flow what the OEM PowerCore does when it is completly loaded and ready for a change. Restriction normally works hand in hand with the above mentioned efficiency. It is usually tough to get a low restriction without sacrificing filtering efficiency. PowerCore has made this hurdle as it packs a large amount of high efficiency media in a smaller package. 4) Cold Air Induction: Anyone who know anything about making horsepower understands that cold air induction is a huge player in the horsepower equation. Why do you think they make intercoolers? Yes, to cool the air and make more power. Why then would you strap some goofy air induction system onto your throttle body that breathes hot underhood air? When the engine senses that hot air it will defuel to compensate for the lower density and thus you will make less power. 5) Noise Attenuation: Not always a big player for everyone, but the OEM PowerCore system does a good job at keeping a muzzle on the high frequency turbo whine often heard with other systems installed. I have heard folks on this forum who have said that at first they thought the whining sound was cool, but then it wore on them and became rather annoying so they switched back to the OEM system. So what can we learn from all of this? I guess what we've been told all alon is true, and that is that there is no such thing as a free lunch, but there is such a thing called "value" and I think that is where the PowerCore really shines. Yes, PowerCore does carry a small price premium, but with that premium are many added benefits. Donaldson company is not in the business of giving you the cheapest air filter for your vehicle, but rather the best filter at the best value. If you want the cheapest, why did you pay $50,000 for your truck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 And Txtom, it would probably run so good you would give it away for a chevy. This could start a crap here but its all in fun F U#$ING O WNER R EALLY D UMB OR FORD BACKWARDS STANDS FOR Driver Returns On Foot LMAO Ahhh, yes, the old arguments! When I brought it home, my son gave me all kinds of crap about Fords. He drives a GMC Sonoma pick up. He got quiet after towing him home a few times. Funny, didn't bother him to go to Pensacola in it. Then he picked on his sister after she bought a ford. All the old "fix or repair daily" and the like. He left her alone after she explained that GMC not only stood for "gotta mechanic coming," but also "gay man's chevy". I think I "HEARS" a Brand War coming... Keep it clean, so his thread doesn't get locked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Chevrolet=Can-hear-every-valve-rattle-on-long-extended-trips or Cracked-heads-every-valve-rattles-oil-leaks-every-time Ford=First-on -recall-day or Foward-only-reverse-destructive I drive a Chevy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC93 Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I'm sorry! Guess somone has to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I'm sorry! Guess somone has to do it! ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahneFan Posted April 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Just found this on the ole' Google... ACURA: Another Crummy, Useless, Rotten Automobile Asia's Curse Upon Rural America AMC: All Makes Combined A Major Cost A Mutated Car A Morons Car Another Major Catastrophe AUDI: Awfully Unsafe Designs Implemented Accelerates Under Demonic Influence Automobile Under Demonic Influence Another Ugly Deutsche Invention Always Undermining Deutsche Intelligence Automobile Unsafe Designs, Inc. BMW: Big Mormon Wagon Big Money Works Bought My Wife Brutal Money Waster Break My Window Break My Windshield Babbling Mechanical Wench Beastly Monstrous Wonder Beautiful Masterpieces on Wheels Beautiful Mechanical Wonder Barely Moving Wreck Big Money Waste Big Money. Why? Big Money Works Born Moderately Wealthy Breaks Most Wrenches Bring More Wrenches Brings Me Women Brings More Women Broken Money Waster Broke My Wallet Broken Monstrous Wonder Bumbling Mechanical Wretch Blasphemous Motorized Wreck BUICK: Big Ugly Indestructible Car Killer Big Ugly Imitation Chrome King CHEVROLET: Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time Cracked Heads, Every Valve Rattles, Oil Leaks Every Time Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques DODGE: Drips Oil & Drops Grease Everywhere Damn Old Dirty Gas Eater Dead Old Dog Going East Dead On Day Guarantee Expires Dead On Delivery, Go Easy Dead On Delivery, Guarantee Expired Dead Or Dying Garbage Emitter Dear Old Dads Garage Experiment Daily Overhauls Do Get Expensive EDSEL: Every Day Something Else Leaks FIAT: Failed Italian Automotive Technology Fix It Again, Tony! Feeble Italian Attempt at Transportation FORD: Frigin' Old Rebuilt Dodge Fix Or Repair Daily Found On Road Dead Fast Only Rolling Downhill First On Race Day First On Recall Day Fabricated Of Refried Dung Fails On Rainy Days Fantastically Orgasmic Realistic Dream Fatally Obese Redneck Driver Fault Of R&D Finally Obsolete Racing Device Fireball On Rear Denting First On Road to Dump First On Rust and Deterioration Fix Or Recycle Dilemma Flipping Over Results in Death Flipped Over Roadside Disaster Follow Our Rusty Dogsled Foot On Road Decelerates Forced On Reluctant Drivers Formed Of Rejected DNA Forwarded Once; Return Denied Forward Only; Reverse Defective Forlorn, Old, Ratridden Dustbin Fork Over Repair Dough Fouled Out Re-done Dodge Frequent Overhaul, Rapid Deterioration Free Or Reduced Drastically Frequent Opinion: Really Disappointed Fumes and Odors Readily Detectable Funny Old Rattling Dump (backwards) Driver Returns On Foot GEO: Good Engineering Overlooked GM: General Maintenance Great Mistake Garbage Motors Generally Miserable Grossly Misconceived Gluteus Maximus GMC: Garage Man's Companion Gotta Mechanic Coming? Generally Mediocre Cars Get More Chicks Gets Mechanics Crazy Gods Mechanical Curse Got More Crap Great Mountain Climber Great Motor Car GTO: Gas, Tires, Oil HONDA: Had One Never Did Again Hang On, Not Done Accelerating Hallmark Of Non-Descript Automobiles Hallmark Of Non-Destructable Automobiles HYUNDAI: Hope You Understand Nothing's Driveable And Inexpensive... JEEP: Just Eats Every Part Junk Engineering Executed Poorly Just Empty Every Pocket MAZDA: Most Always Zipping Dangerously Along MG: Money Guzzler MGB: Might Go Backwards MGF: Might Go Forward MIATA: My Intention: Always To Accelerate MOPAR: Many Odd Parts Arranged Randomly Miscellaneous Oddball Parts Assembled Ridiculously Most Often Passed At Races Mostly Old Parts And Rust Move Over People Are Racing Move Over Plymouth Approaching Rapidly My Old Pig Ain't Running My Only Problems Are Repairs MUSTANG: Motor Under Strain, Transmission Almost No Good OLDSMOBILE: Overpriced, Leisurely Driven Sedan Made Of Buick's Irregular Leftover Equipment PINTO: Put In Nickel To Operate Paid Inspector Nicely To Overlook PLYMOUTH: Please Leave Your Money Out Under The Hood PONTIAC: Poor Old Numbskull Thinks Its A Cadillac PORSCHE: Proof Of Rich Spoiled Children Having Everything SAAB: Send Another Automobile Back Swedish Automobiles Always Breakdown Sad Attempt At Beauty Sorry Auto, Always Broken Shape Appears Ass-Backwards SUBARU: Screwed Up Beyond All Repair Usually TOYOTA: Too Often Yankees Overprice This Auto Torturous On Your Old Tired Ass The One You Ought To Avoid TRIUMPH: This Really Is Unreliable Man, Please Help! Tried Repairing It Until My Parts Hurt! VOLVO: Very Odd Looking Vehicular Object VW: Virtually Worthless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques Now I know this one from past experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Ford people and Chevy people goin' at it ! I've always been a Chevy man but my last 3 trucks have been Dodge. (My first was a V-10 and I hooked chains to bumpers with a Ford crew cab dually and dragged his smokin' ass down the road...I didn't fare so well in 2wd) It sure got bad gas mileage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingaces Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 DID YOU KNOW: CAMARO IS A INDIAN WORD MEANING "FILL THIS FU@%ER UP AGAIN" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Ford people and Chevy people goin' at it ! I've always been a Chevy man but my last 3 trucks have been Dodge. (My first was a V-10 and I hooked chains to bumpers with a Ford crew cab dually and dragged his smokin' ass down the road...I didn't fare so well in 2wd) It sure got bad gas mileage! To bad you don't still have that truck, I've never chained myself to anyone in a pullin contest, but I figure if I can pull a Kenworth Tractor out of a muddy ditch; I sure as heck could give you a run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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