slysnake Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 The wait is over! The 2004 CC Speedway rules are out! What are everyone's thoughts on the changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Lugs Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 How much changed in your class? We were told there were only going to be minor changes but the Super Street have changed quite a bit. Some of the things we were upgrading to will have to be undone now. I hope everything isn't in stone. Maybe at the drivers meeting there will be more discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Looks like they are actually rules now. lol Last season's rules were pretty open. Run what ya brung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Just a couple of this I noticed (unless I overlooked them): No left side or rear % maximum No restriction on camshafts, valve springs, head milling No restriction on flyweight cranks or knife edging cs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVeit Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 hmm, pretty cool, youll see me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Going to hitch hike to the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I have read the 2003 rules alot since i started building a Super Street and the only thing that changed is the steel aftermarket body panels. That is a good rule. Oh I'm sorry I don't think they used to say that the weight was after the race so I guess that changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratdaddy Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 LOOSE LUGS, WHAT WERE UPGRADING TO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDONE? THE ONLY CHANGES IN SS ARE THINGS THAT WERE ADDED NOT TAKIN' AWAY. COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racin4fun Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I have a question, why seal the carbs in the Bomber class? I just don't under stand why. I have never seen that rule before. Does it make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 Where did you see the rule for a sealed carburetor? I looked again and didn't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-Crew Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 I don't know what their intent is but for most every other series a sealed carb means one that has been inspected thoroughly at the start of the season then sealed and tagged. As long as the seal is intact the tech man knows it hasn't been "massaged" after the season starts and it doesn't need to be checked again. For a bomber this should be no big deal, with stock heads, stock manifolds, etc.. they aren't sensitive to small jet changes and unless it needed a rebuild before you started, there should be very few reasons to need to get in to the carb during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddslinger41 Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 I have read the rules for the Super Street class for 2003 and 2004 , it seems like you guys are trying to make the rules more toward S.A./Kyle rules . I guess if it brings more cars that is good but what if you already had a car that has been running are the changes going to keep those cars from still running as they were or will people have to build new cars to conform to the new rules? ie: centered fuel cells / cowl induction carb boxes/ taller than 4" air filters / firewalls that were legal maybe not now ? Some of these things (fuel cells ) might not be easy to move being the cars were built with the cells to the left side.New K&N filter to replace old 5 " .Throw away hours worth of work used to built air boxes. Just asking ? Mudd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin34 Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 In regards to stock firewalls and such, the rules don't mention anything about pedal placement. Do the pedals have to remain stock pedals? Do they have to remain stock mounted and stock location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 As far as centering the fuel cell I don't really think that should be in the rules but it is. Atleast you have untill March to move it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadRacing19 Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Hopefully if firewalls were legal in the past they will be legal in the future. Pedals and pedal placement has always been a big issue . Maybe someone can shed some light on what the rule is or will be ? Fuel cells , why make them be centered when most cars running CC have them to the left side already ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbeaver087 Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 yal need to look at it as a safety issue if the fuel cell is on the left side ,you are most likly to get hit in that side or hit the wall with the left rear when you lose an axle or tire. in the arts truck i work on the fuel cell is centered it has been hit so hard in the rear end the cell was push where it was not straight if it would have been on the left side it would have been a bad thing .so i think its a good idea to have it centered .jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 From what i thought the brake rules meant pedals and master cylinders would be stock and in stock location. If thats not true then I would sure like to know. Are there cars out there that have moved the pedals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin34 Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Poorboy, yes there are cars out there that have some pretty major pedal modifications.....as far as the fuel cell deal, I can see where a safety concern might come about, but in my opinion if the fuel cell is mounted properly and the rear loop is built right, there really shouldn't be a problem at CC Speedway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadRacing19 Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 A few of the cars have stock pedals and almost stock location but, then they have foot long extentions on them. It would seem to me that if you have got to have stock pedals and stock location then the extentions should not be legal . They are just a way around to beat the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastowner Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Guys we are not trying to cause problems but we are trying to clarify the old rules a little bit. We in no way are trying to make the rules more like San Antonio or Kyle so we can attract their cars. We fully want to take care of our local cars and make sure everyone is on a level playing field. I had hoped that everyone would appreciate some rule clarifications but I can see their are some issues we need to work at. We are not going to change rules at the drop of a hat but we are not going to close the book and say we will not do what makes good sense. Safety is a very high concern of ours but so is even competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 One question. Will the Yocums still be involved with the track in 2004? 2005? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slysnake Posted December 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 hey fast, I think what has happened is that, from what I can see, there are some small changes; but the wording has been changed overall since last year adding to some confusion. Just a suggestion, how about just stating what the changes are only. It might help. No one wants to get out to the track, start racing, and find out they are not legal etc. over a rule change that was not clear. Safety definitely must be of utmost importance. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Lugs Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 To Fastower, You say the rules are not being changed to be more like SA or Kyle. If you pull up the rules from SA, the wording in their rules and a lot of the changes are worded exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadRacing19 Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 Safety should always be the main concern but ,how is making someone run a shorter air cleaner a safety issue? If you look at some of the cages in a few cars there is the safety issue to be worked on .I know you are trying to make things better and thats great but there are more rules that need to be clarified. Hopefully by the time the meetings get here these things can be worked out. Everyone will need to give this a fair chance . Owen seems to be a fair person(from what I hear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racin4fun Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Hey all, I see we all agree on the safty issues. I don't understand why they don't make it mandatory that you have to have a racing seat. I just do not see where using a regular seat is safe. You can get good deals on them on E Bay. JMO. As far as fuel cells in the 2002 race season you could have them on the left then last season (2003) they had to be moved to the middle now this season in the bomber class it did not say where it had to be unless they changed it since I last looked. Another thing I would like to see in the rules if it is not all ready there is that "IF YOU CUT YOUR BUMPER DOWN THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE STOCK ENDS BACK ON" lots of people had their tires cut down because of people who cut the ends off but never put the ends back on. We go through enough tires, and it gets expensive. If you know how to cut them down it should be no problem welding the ends back on. Merry Christmas all and Happy New Year!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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