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Ask any spectator in the grandstands if they can tell the difference between the cars in the Super Stock class, and the Outlaw Stock class. The answer will be NO! There are barely enough cars to make a decent class even with them combined. I have not had a car in the program, but I know a lot about racing. All of my racing experience is on on dirt track, but I have been a regular spectator at HMP for a long time. The only reason that those two classes are two different classes is because of all of the whining, and crying from the people who race those two classes (all 6 or 7 of them). Combining the two into one class, and tweaking the rules a little bit is a NO-BRAINER! It is totally ridiculous to run two separate classes of indentical cars who only have a handful of cars in each class. The two classes could be run together, and scored separately even. At least that would put a decent car count on the track.
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18 hours ago, TexasTornado said:
You'll win some for that trophy room soon bud. Keep it up.
$12,000 to go 50 mph down the straights? Those boys are getting ripped off.
The bicycles at SAS were a hit. Very affordable, probably $125 or so turnkey (or pedal ready I guess) with slime filled tires so no flats. Just a thought.
LOL! My sentiments exactly. Those suckers who paid $12,000 for a glorified "Thunder Bomber" are gonna be pissed off.
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I'm done. Too many sensitive egos here. That's why this forum has never had more than a handful of opinionated people on it. BTW- You can always spot the suckers who paid too much. LOL!!!
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7 hours ago, Josh42 said:
I am not going to deny this but look at who the racers were that showed up. The racers that showed up were already racing asphalt at Kyle there was not a whole lot of crossover racers. The changes are a little more than minimal, your going to have to lower ride heights and center of gravity, look at your standard setups on dirt sport mod. Those setups would not work on asphalt. The only way its going to work is purse you have to make them want to do it. If you throw out the same purse as what they can get staying on a dirt track, why would you change it over.
In all honesty Tim just think about it if you had a sport mod lets say your based out San Antonio. Your car is setup to run dirt at I-37 and you have been running good there. You also occasionally travel to STS, Texana, CBS. You know that at your local track you win your getting $450, you can travel to the other tracks on an off night and your getting the same. HMP puts on a race for sport mods and they are paying $450 to win as well. Where are you going to go race? Somewhere where you have to change your setup completely up, plus buy tires, or are you going to go somewhere where you know you just have to unload not change a thing and go have fun?
That's why I'm saying if they are going to do it they are going to have to make it worth their while to make the changes and spend the money to come race there. I'm not disagreeing with you that the cars are there, there is a lot of them you just have to make it worth their while to do it.
I disagree. There are an abudance of Sport Mods (Limited Modifieds) in existence. Many of them are not owned by cheaters who spend $10,000+ on an open chambered motor that should cost about $3,500, $15,000 chassis, with $1,000 shocks. Those guys (The cheaters) can stay at the dirt track with the other cheaters. The honest guys who want to run in an affordable series can bring their Legitimate Sport Mods to HMP, and put on a good show for a loyal fan base.
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7 hours ago, j.j.&s.racing said:
A good factory stock cost about 12,000 to get built. Plus engines.
And, it is a glorified "Thunder Bomber" worth about 1/2 of that (with an engine) That is the problem. The Thieves who over charge to build them, and the fools who are willing to pay 3 times what they are worth.
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On 8/16/2019 at 9:18 AM, toyotatim said:
Mr Chastain hit shoved about half of the field out of the way going to the front after his penalty. That is cool to watch. I can believe someone did not put his nice white truck in the wall. It is fun to watch, and the retaliation will be better. The problem is, he did not have the ___ to do it to someone who could pay him back. It was the part timers who will not be around every race to return the favor. I want to see one of them pay him back in the championship race. Boy, now that would be fun
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57 minutes ago, TSRSONETWO said:
How about drop some classes before you add anymore.
My previous post was in response to this post.
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That is a valid point that will need to be addressed. If not completely dropped, at least "rotated." I know that I will get some opposition here, but I am of the opinion that the Super Stocks, and the Outlaw Stocks are far too similar to be two different classes. Especially when neither class has been able to come up with a decent car count. I have seen more negativity on this forum from the drivers of these two classes than any other. I believe that there should be a way to combine them so the fans won't have to sit through two different classes of a handful of cars that look identical. I still like the idea of Street Stocks with sensible rules, or a Limited Modified class as long as the cheaters with $10,000+ motors, and $1,000 shocks are somehow not allowed.
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metroracer makes a damn good point. Those "ASPHALT STYLE STREET STOCKS" are some bad ass looking cars. As a racer, and a fan, I can tell you that the fans get very excited when they hear the announcer say- "It's Street Stock" time! This is a class that the people in the grand stands can relate to. Not to mention that they are very competitive. There are stock bodies as well as aftermarket bodies for these cars that are readily available, and fairly economical. Want to look like a 85 Monte Carlo? No problem. Want to look like a 2015 Cadillac CTS? No problem. Want to look like a 2015 Mustang? No problem. The 108" metric frame has a slew of different looks available. There is no reason to have 3 or 4 or 5 or more different classes that all look alike. This is the problem I see with what is running now. Super stocks, Outlaw Stocks, Late Model Stocks, Modifieds... They all look alike to the people in the bleachers, and NONE of them look like anything they have ever owned, or driven. The best way to win over the fans is to give them competive race cars that they can relate to. That's my story, and I'm stickin to it!!! BTW- I do NOT like "Factory Stock" rules. I think there are way too many little ticky-tacky rules meant to give cheaters, and engine builders the ability to dominate the class, and take advantage of the guys who are actually paying to build a race car out of their pockets.
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I had the pleasure of visiting with Corey at HMP the last time he raced there. ( He won the Late Model Stock Car race that night) Corey is a very down to earth, and friendly person. I have been following him in the NASCAR trucks very closely. I have been very impressed by what he has done thus far. Good luck to Corey Roper at Michigan this weekend. I will definitely be watching, and cheering him on. GO #04!!!
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So much hate. Now I remember why I went several years without posting on this forum. Go ahead and put me back on "Moderator Queue", Nick. I am better than this.
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Thank you, Gina. (And, everyone else involved) There was a noticeable improvement in the program over the ones in the recent past. Even though it was the first go round, it was pretty awesome. I look forward to the next show. Keep up the good work!
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I hate to disappoint the haters, but Kevin wasn't trying to wreck Brad. He was giving him a push, and Brad got loose. Even Brad said so. He was not mad at Kevin. Sorry fellas, but that's the way it was.
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I support Brad Keselowski 100%. That's all I'm going to say. Probably said too much already.
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I think about this every time I am at a race track. I was in the grandstands at the Indy Car Grand Prix of Houston in 2013 when Dario Franchitti's car became airborne on the last lap, and hit the catch fence in front of us. An entire section of fence flew into the bleachers, went over my head, and injured 13 people sitting right behind me. That was a very substantial fence too. The fences at many local tracks are merely "chain link" fences which were never designed to stop a race car. It scares me to death every time I see little kids playing around in front of the fence. Rodney is right about this. It is only a matter of time.
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5 hours ago, toyotatim said:
Can someone explain to me how the shock picks the truck up?
I haven't posted on this forum in several years, but I will do so to answer your question. Shock absorbers have 2 functions (Compression and rebound) Without going overboard on the involved technology, I will say that theses 2 functions are achieved through valving which allows fluid and gases to pass the valves. I will assume that you know what compression and rebound are. (Pretty self explanatory) The newest technology includes front shocks which are referred to as "Tie down shocks." Aggressive valving allows the compression stroke (function) to be held for an extended period of time. This is what allows the vehicle to meet pre-race inspection height requirements, bottom out on the track, and return to original ride height after the race. (The coil springs are what provide the energy for the "rebound" function. Evidently, the #44 truck did not return to the legal ride height for some reason. That is it in a nutshell, toyotatim. BTW- I admire your willingness to go against the flow, and speak your mind. Keep up the good work.
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In one of my earlier posts, I referred to these cars as "Thunder Bombers." That is exactly what they are. These rules are nearly word for word identical to the Thunder Bomber rules we ran with at HRP in Baytown 10-15 years ago. I have no idea why anyone is spending $12,000+ on a "Factory Stock with these rules. (That's what I'm reading they are paying) I can only assume that at that price they are being cheated up something fierce. I can build one of these for half that much, but I wouldn't. It's not worth it as far as I am concerned. I am with "metroracer" on this one. " I am sticking with my vote for the Street Stock / Pro-Stocks and to Grandfather the Supers into the Outlaws..."