Kyle Larson waiver

[arob]

Since no one else has brought it up what do you think Larson should get a waiver to compete for the Cup? It is going to be hard for NASCAR to kick arguably the most popular driver out of the Championship. But if NASCAR grants the waiver that would send a message if a driver gets a chance to compete in the biggest and premiere motorsports event in the world then skipping the 600 if weather is involved is ok. Personally I think he should get the waiver because Larson was at the track ready to race but weather took it away from him. Tough choice.

[arob]

Just saw he was granted waiver.

 

[ron.brown11]

3 hours ago, arob said:

Just saw he was granted waiver.

 

arob, I'm not surprised that nobody has posted anything. I know that I've tried to keep up the interest for asphalt racing in general, and Kaden Honeycutt in particular. But regardless of the topic, there seems to be a very small group that respond to anything. That's a shame, as Nick has spent a huge amount of time & energy keeping the site going. As I'm not in the site running business, I don't know if him keeping this site going costs him money too. I have a huge amount of respect for Nick as a person, and for his technical expertise, and I think that he's trying to promote racing here..

As my footprint on the Texas racing scene is small (only crew chiefed a mod for 3 seasons here), I'm surprised at how little the support is for a TX racing site, that tries to promote and/or relay info about it. I've tried to help encourage the love for asphalt racing. Hey, my first 3 years of going to races as a kid, were at a great 1/2 dirt track, and I really liked it. Until they paved that track. It took me nearly 30 years to go to another dirt track. I just love the asphalt stuff more. And I'm fine if others love the dirt better. It's still about the love of racing, and there's room for everyone to choose, or do both. I've tried really hard to do what little I can to push Honeycutt. I don't know him, but I think that he has the stuff to go far up the racing food chain. I went back and looked at the thread that I started about him. There have been nearly 100 replies on that thread. Of that amount only 22 have been by others. Of those others Nick's replies were over half of them. If I don't count Nick or myself, there were I think 4 other posters. So basically I've given up on trying to help pass along any info. I don't need to spend time typing stuff out, if nobody cares to hear/read about it. So I'll still read stuff on here when I have time, but I'm pretty much done with posting, and I hate that. But apathy is something I choose not to deal with.

[Radical]

I have no issues at all of Larson getting the waiver. He had all intentions of doing both races. Mother nature had other ideas. If NASCAR can grant a waiver to a driver who had missed three months of racing due to getting injured in another division that he was not running for a Championship in, then NASCAR should grant a waiver to a driver who brought a lot of publicity to NASCAR & INDY. I'm sure there are a lot of people, including myself, that hopes he makes another attempt next year.

[RodneyRodriguez]

Great points Ron, it seems to be an ongoing challenge these days I can feel your frustration. I'm often ready to turn in my key board and sell my studio.

Larson was going to get this deal, NASCAR needs anything positive, the way they handled this, however, could have been better. Tell people "it is in progress or review" just something. I would guess the process is modified in the off season but I've never been one to say scrap the stages and playoffs but at this point why not? This series has gotten too complicated just let them run when and how they want and deal with the sponsor's needs. 

[NickHolt]

I'm totally ready for someone to take over LSSZ and make it what it used to be back before Facebook became the hot spot.

[ron.brown11]

7 hours ago, NickHolt said:

I'm totally ready for someone to take over LSSZ and make it what it used to be back before Facebook became the hot spot.

Nick, I hope that you don't think that I'm dissing on LSSZ or you, as nothing could be further from the truth. What really frustrates me is the types of posts & responses. They typically fall into 3 categories: Informative; Argumentative; and Disrespectful. For as much as the Texas racing scene has contracted over the last 2 decades, one would think that people would be trying to pump it up. Trying to get more people excited, and thinking of ways to try and grow the sport in TX. Instead there are those seem to be trying to tear down what is left, or to try and tear down someone that doesn't see things their way. I've seen this movie before, and I can tell you that nobody wins. 

Even though dirt racing isn't my favorite, I'm grateful for those that post what's going on in the dirt racing scene. And it's never crossed my mind to argue, or try to disrespect someone that's taken the time to try and pass along stories/results, from whatever type of racing they are watching. When there's no excitement around racing, guess who else isn't excited? Fans, Racers, and Sponsors. Without 2 of those 3, you don't need the third one. Economics 101, without the fans and sponsors paying most of the bills, race tracks and racers go away. I've never seen or heard of a track operator/owner say, that they were closing down because they were making too much money. So unless one was lucky enough to inherit a butt load of money, even they won't be able to race. Notice that I didn't say somebody that's worked really hard, and amassed a fortune? That's because the person that has worked really hard, and amassed that fortune, is never going to spend the kind of money, endlessly, for just the love of the sport. At some point, they're going to cry uncle, and find a new way to spend their hard earned money. Racing needs as much good noise as it can get. Between the fact that most people under the age of 30, don't look at cars/racing the same as people older then 30 do, and the federal government wanting to completely kill off anything involving the internal combustion engine, the last thing racing needs is racers and fans trying to help shove the knife in deeper. 

[ron.brown11]

9 hours ago, RodneyRodriguez said:

Great points Ron, it seems to be an ongoing challenge these days I can feel your frustration. I'm often ready to turn in my key board and sell my studio.

Larson was going to get this deal, NASCAR needs anything positive, the way they handled this, however, could have been better. Tell people "it is in progress or review" just something. I would guess the process is modified in the off season but I've never been one to say scrap the stages and playoffs but at this point why not? This series has gotten too complicated just let them run when and how they want and deal with the sponsor's needs. 

Rodney, please don't stop if at all possible. I hope that both you and Nick will continue to help inform the racing public. Both of your efforts are appreciated very much by some.

[Radical]

12 hours ago, ron.brown11 said:

Rodney, please don't stop if at all possible. I hope that both you and Nick will continue to help inform the racing public. Both of your efforts are appreciated very much by some.

I couldn't agree more.

[24nomo]

16 hours ago, ron.brown11 said:

Rodney, please don't stop if at all possible. I hope that both you and Nick will continue to help inform the racing public. Both of your efforts are appreciated very much by some.

Copy that.  Keep the info going, it is cool to read.   I follow these Texas shortrack guys anywhere they go.  I have floracing, Racing America, MavTV.  Follow them all.   Then I like to fire these naysayers up here.   

[HiTech]

 I DONT GET ON HERE  as much  guilty guilty guilty .. slap me for it ..  i do not go to the races much anymore . i went twice this  year to help jesse   and went twice last year . jesse parked the car last year to build a new garage  that took most of the season  so we never even  looked at the car outside of starting it up or moving it . only reason  we even  put the car on  the track last year was the invite  from  owen to race houston with the  dirt car /ten inch slicks  and all  no rules really .t got our juices flowing  to go race  on  a paved track something we havent done sence 2016  .we miss  that kind of racing  no dirt no mud no dust  we had to go dirt when there was no where else to run cc closed sas closed kyle closed  squeezed us out .. we needed new cars by then to travel something we could not afford  just to costly . dirt was cheaper then  . with factory stocks now racing special chassis high end shocks  motors cost 10 grand  geared up for high  7500 or higher , end carbs and more  its hard for us poor folks to keep up  just getting to the racetrack  can cost 200 min locally  .. going to edna alot more .. my son  found a women  u know how that works 4 years . he sold his car  because of the cost  with thenew chassis and rules   was just to much  .a series trying to save money  cost twice as much to save it .go figure .. jesse and i talked about building an old stye car   .but we are to dam old now and getting slower  we do not have that drive anymore ..  of i go to the track now i wait to the last minute to show up i hate sitting in the puts now  for hours on in  i just want us to race both races and go home  i care not to watch  really any other races it isnt the same  anymore    not much visiting  each others pits like we use to  . just a total  differnt  feel .   the ony time i have had fun  in the last 4 years was going to houston  last year for that race after trying to figure out a set up o for the dirt car with some advice from nick  theset up i thought if and his set up were close  i learned from him  how to figure  it ..  the car was fast the driver agter a couple of laps found he still  had it and we did as a team  . after  thatwe race the december  race at siuth texas speedway  .. but only to find out  if the car would run better on the dirt with houston set up  where we found something in the car we have been looking for for years .... it paid off the car is much faster now on dirt  that ever was .. i wont say wha tthe set up  is .but its called a half ass  set up for a reason ,.lol . in reality after 60 years around racing i just burned out. we miss the old days  that happens to all of us  as we get older and times change . its more fun ti talk about what we did going through all those years and how we all could own a mansion had we not got sick and raced cars . age has a way to slow  your life down a  level or two and say  hey  let the young take over u had your fun ..now  go work in the garden  pull weeds fix something on the house  . or follow  the wifes honey do list . something   u always new will come around someday .. the  LIST .. NICK  even lorraine retired from full time scoring after  what  30 years  this season  .she  offered to stand in  if owen needed her  but full time is over she enjoyed working with u in sa  , ..   racing would never ever be a regret  .the memories the hard nights  working gard ot make a race the money spent   meeting others even nick  for who i didnt like for some time . because he  told it like it was  then i met him  and had nick over at my house more than once  .. he turned out  JUST OK .LOL . NO REALLY  i learned alot  from nick but not enough  to late  coming .. . and u guys just keep kicking  that bucket making it rattle .. ...... would not have missed for  all the money in the world ..i even like  trouble maker  24 nomo .. part of the family  nothing else could build or  break it down .. once u are in you are in .. 

[NickHolt]

One of these days I'll figure out whether HiTech likes me or hates me!  LOL.  

I have been blessed with friends I would never have met outside of racing due to my LONG involvement in the Texas Stock Car Racing world.  

 

[HiTech]

On 6/8/2024 at 7:55 AM, NickHolt said:

One of these days I'll figure out whether HiTech likes me or hates me!  LOL.  

I have been blessed with friends I would never have met outside of racing due to my LONG involvement in the Texas Stock Car Racing world.  

 

i love to keep u  confused  nick . like i am all the time  🤪

[HiTech]

3 minutes ago, HiTech said:

i love to keep u  confused  nick . like i am all the time  🤪

but if u want to really  get screwed up talk to  ron on the phone . .  ron dont get your panties in  a wald ,just jabbing at  u .

Edited June 9 by HiTech

[ron.brown11]

On 6/8/2024 at 7:55 AM, NickHolt said:

One of these days I'll figure out whether HiTech likes me or hates me!  LOL.  

I have been blessed with friends I would never have met outside of racing due to my LONG involvement in the Texas Stock Car Racing world.  

 

Nick, let there be no doubt, he likes & respects you. At least that is my impression for the times that we've talked on the phone. 

I can't claim to have the amount of time that you have had here, in the TX racing scene, but I too have been blessed with the people both in and outside to racing environment. Most of mine though have come from the AZ & CA area. But I do have a couple here, and I'm grateful for those too. 

[ron.brown11]

5 hours ago, HiTech said:

but if u want to really  get screwed up talk to  ron on the phone . .  ron dont get your panties in  a wald ,just jabbing at  u .

HiTech, I don't get worried about what I know isn't meant in a kind way. Isn't that what most racers do? Rag on another racer, and then do anything you can help them if they needed it.. 

[HiTech]

6 hours ago, ron.brown11 said:

HiTech, I don't get worried about what I know isn't meant in a kind way. Isn't that what most racers do? Rag on another racer, and then do anything you can help them if they needed it.. 

yep//

[rebelracewriter]

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Kyle Larson waiver

No one mentioned it because everyone knew it would happen???......Even if Rick Hendrick had to add a couple more zeros to the check......Had they not, armageddon would have occured in racing world..... NA$CAR has enough issues without throwing gas on the fire.----jmo

Edited June 10 by rebelracewriter

[ron.brown11]

On 6/10/2024 at 6:07 PM, rebelracewriter said:

No one mentioned it because everyone knew it would happen???......Even if Rick Hendrick had to add a couple more zeros to the check......Had they not, armageddon would have occured in racing world..... NA$CAR has enough issues without throwing gas on the fire.----jmo

Rebel, NASCAR would have looked absolutely stupid & tone deaf (what else is new), if they hadn't given the waiver. They were actively touting Larson doing the double. Add in all of the free advertising they got from the Indy 500 broadcast, and the lead up to both races, it was never in doubt. I think that the only reason they drug their feet, was to make it look like they weren't just rubber stamping it. Mr Hendrick didn't have to write a check to make this happen, but I think he would have if he had to. At this point in the season, it sure feels like Larson will be the 2024 champ. How stupid would NASCAR look if they arbitrarily kept him out of the chase. Because if they did that, the screaming public & internet trolls would bring up Kyle Busch missing half the season, and still winning the championship. I don't think that they want to go back and have to try and explain that again. NASCAR already has enough crap on their plate, with the charters and such.

I'm really glad that drivers don't have to risk theirs or another driver's life, by driving when they are not physically able. I don't care how safe people think that racing is now, nobody wants to go back to "the way it used to be". I really respect Dale Jr for having the guts to take himself out of the car, when he had his concussion. That was the impedance for the waiver system. NASCAR knew that they needed Jr, because they needed the fans not to leave. So having a healthy Jr, and having him be able to compete for a championship, was paramount for them.

But hey, I could be wrong, as NASCAR has stepped on their junk enough since Bill Jr passed. 

[rebelracewriter]

2 hours ago, ron.brown11 said:

NASCAR would have looked absolutely stupid & tone deaf (what else is new)

The current na$car hierarchy reminds me of the current government administration----both sides of aisle....Incompetent and inept----again, jmo 

[ron.brown11]

On 6/13/2024 at 10:59 PM, rebelracewriter said:

The current na$car hierarchy reminds me of the current government administration----both sides of aisle....Incompetent and inept----again, jmo 

That sounds about right Rebel!!

[24nomo]

Nascar is doing just fine.  Putting on great shows to lots of crowds with great racing.  One issue they have is how are they going to divide up the billions of money to the other boys.  I love it when there is billions on the table to split up.  Great problem to have.