Stewart Hass

[24nomo]

Mr Stewart is a quitter.   He has turned his back on his guys to pursue other deals.  I feel bad for the drivers and employees there, they deserve better

[MikePeters95]

LOL, random dude on the internet throwing stones at a guy with a $100mm net worth, that owns a track, series, and several successful teams in professional motorsports because he lost interest in something and is selling it to someone who will be interested in it.

I'm sure Tony will hear about this and lose sleep over your bashing him.  I'll never understand threads like this on forums or in the Facebook comments.

Tony has had a wildly successful career and NASCAR was a great place during his time there, glad he has something else that excited him that he wants to focus on and good for him.

[24nomo]

Oh I agree, he is so successful, he can quit and let everyone else worry about feeding their families.  He owes them nothing.  His money does not impress me one bit.      I can throw stones at him like you throw stones at the rental kids.   I cant say what I really want to so........Good Riddance to the Rich Clown if he goes,  

Edited May 28 by 24nomo

[NickHolt]

Let's cool down the personal attacks on fellow LSSZ members, please.

People involved in racing often have strong feelings about various issues and Mr. Stewart has made it easy for folks to "throw stones" at him at different points in his illustrious career. 

24nomo is not a "random dude."  He's been on here a long time and has earned a reputation for stirring the pot. Usually, he doesn't step over the line But if he does, I take my own steps... 

Let brotherly love continue!

 

[Radical]

1 hour ago, NickHolt said:

Let's cool down the personal attacks on fellow LSSZ members, please.

People involved in racing often have strong feelings about various issues and Mr. Stewart has made it easy for folks to "throw stones" at him at different points in his illustrious career. 

24nomo is not a "random dude."  He's been on here a long time and has earned a reputation for stirring the pot. Usually, he doesn't step over the line But if he does, I take my own steps... 

Let brotherly love continue!

 

Thank you sir.

[RodneyRodriguez]

Tony has been pretty disappointed with NASCAR for a bit and seems to be enjoying what he is doing now the Eldora snub still chaps his ass with the stupid Bristol experiment. Gene has F1 obligations and the Cup team has struggled with this new car. Busch Light left, Smithfield left that's millions of dollars. Good business sense, get out while you can. Like operating a race track, keeping it open so people think you are a pillar of the community is a fast lane ride to the poor house. 

[arob]

Well put Mr. Rodriguez.

 

[rebelracewriter]

11 hours ago, NickHolt said:

Let's cool down the personal attacks on fellow LSSZ members, please.

People involved in racing often have strong feelings about various issues and Mr. Stewart has made it easy for folks to "throw stones" at him at different points in his illustrious career. 

24nomo is not a "random dude."  He's been on here a long time and has earned a reputation for stirring the pot. Usually, he doesn't step over the line But if he does, I take my own steps... 

Let brotherly love continue!

 

......and I wasn't even involved.(this time)

[MikePeters95]

10 hours ago, RodneyRodriguez said:

Tony has been pretty disappointed with NASCAR for a bit and seems to be enjoying what he is doing now the Eldora snub still chaps his ass with the stupid Bristol experiment. Gene has F1 obligations and the Cup team has struggled with this new car. Busch Light left, Smithfield left that's millions of dollars. Good business sense, get out while you can. Like operating a race track, keeping it open so people think you are a pillar of the community is a fast lane ride to the poor house. 

Exactly!  Him and Gene Haas have had an awesome tenure in the sport, and they have a lot of good assets ( people, equipment, and facilties ) that will find good homes for other folks who are more interested in running a Cup team than they are at this moment.

The Eldora / Larson / Dodge /  Ford / Funding deal plus charter prices and a sellers market made a good time for them.

Front Row is on the up and up and they will pick up some parts/pieces, as will a very eager to grow young-owner Trackhouse, 23XI, and RFK.  

I think SHR being able to close down is validation of the charter system serving it's purpose as well.  Remember Junior Johnson and Cale having little to nothing left when they closed up shop after HoF careers?  Same with Waltrip, Bodine and Rudd after their owner/driver stints. 

Nothing wrong with humans doing one of the bilion+ activities with the billion + people they can do them with and making a change to try to do something else.  

[outlaw]

As Daniel Suarez said last night by making the announcement now the people have time to find new jobs before the end of the season.   

[24nomo]

Great to see Gene Haas step up and pick up the pieces Tony Stewart tore up and left behind.  

[RodneyRodriguez]

Mean Gene keeping it going indeed, I think with one team and some sponsors this could be a sleeper. Keep the 4 crew intact.

[ron.brown11]

When it was announced that Haas was going to keep 1 Cup, and both Xfinity teams, I wasn't that surprised. Both Stewart (NHRA) & Haas (F1), have been absent from the team for a while now. But the real operator of the team Joe Custer, team president, hasn't been absent. Besides, his son still needs a place to race. My thinking was that Chase Briscoe would remain in their #14 Cup ride. Up until about an hour ago, I figured Cole would be kept in the Xfinity series for another year or two. But Christopher Bell was being interviewed, and he inadvertently mentioned that Briscoe would be replacing Truex. Let's see if that happens, or was just a smoke screen.

[HiTech]

On 5/29/2024 at 6:09 AM, NickHolt said:

Let's cool down the personal attacks on fellow LSSZ members, please.

People involved in racing often have strong feelings about various issues and Mr. Stewart has made it easy for folks to "throw stones" at him at different points in his illustrious career. 

24nomo is not a "random dude."  He's been on here a long time and has earned a reputation for stirring the pot. Usually, he doesn't step over the line But if he does, I take my own steps... 

Let brotherly love continue!

 

u never gave me a break .lol ..  look . tony can do what ever he wants ,  he earned his right ,, if the mans heart isnt in it anymore  why stay in it .. 

[24nomo]

On 6/22/2024 at 10:24 PM, HiTech said:

u never gave me a break .lol ..  look . tony can do what ever he wants ,  he earned his right ,, if the mans heart isnt in it anymore  why stay in it .. 

Good Riddance to Tony Stewart...Glad to see him gone

[Radical]

6 hours ago, 24nomo said:

Good Riddance to Tony Stewart...Glad to see him gone

Tony Stewart has been good for all motor sports he has been involved in. I wish him the best of everything in the future. 

[HiTech]

On 5/29/2024 at 5:17 PM, rebelracewriter said:

......and I wasn't even involved.(this time)

reb reb reb .. whats the matter son . someone else took your bag of tricks and ran with em .. . u are still the reb  no one can take that from u  plus and this is big PLUS   no one else even looks  like u thank goodness .. 

Edited June 29 by HiTech

[rebelracewriter]

22 hours ago, HiTech said:

reb reb reb .. whats the matter son . someone else took your bag of tricks and ran with em .. . u are still the reb  no one can take that from u  plus and this is big PLUS   no one else even looks  like u thank goodness .. 

LMFAOOOOO.....No Mike I just avoid certain people anymore....They're not worth it....But you are correct sir on one thing....It's a good thing no one looks like me.....I'd hate for there to be any confusion.

As far as Stewart goes....He's paid his dues....Has a new gig, new wife and new baby on the way....Plus since the charters expire at years end he gave people the chance to score them early enough to get a team in place and pick from the crew guys that will no longer be with SHR....Personally I think it was the best move for everyone involved.

I'm sure the na$car snub at Eldora played a part in it....I mean if someone doesn't want to play in your sandbox anymore, how long do you run to play in theirs?

[ron.brown11]

On 6/21/2024 at 6:36 PM, ron.brown11 said:

When it was announced that Haas was going to keep 1 Cup, and both Xfinity teams, I wasn't that surprised. Both Stewart (NHRA) & Haas (F1), have been absent from the team for a while now. But the real operator of the team Joe Custer, team president, hasn't been absent. Besides, his son still needs a place to race. My thinking was that Chase Briscoe would remain in their #14 Cup ride. Up until about an hour ago, I figured Cole would be kept in the Xfinity series for another year or two. But Christopher Bell was being interviewed, and he inadvertently mentioned that Briscoe would be replacing Truex. Let's see if that happens, or was just a smoke screen.

It was announced last Sat, that Custer will drive the HAAS Cup car, and they're trying to sign Herbst to continue to run the #98 in Xfinity. Since he won at Indy, he now says that he's looking at all options. He has the luxury as it looks like Monster is staying with him either way. So that still leaves 1 Xfinity seat open. My vote if for Kaden Honeycutt, not that it matters. lol  

Also of note, the Haas team will be teaming with RFK racing for a tech alliance. If Gene Has hasn't sold all 3 of the charters, that they say they are going to sell, maybe there's one available for RFK, that wants to run the #60 car with a qualifying spot for the races. Just a thought.. It also looks like Haas will still be running Fords, if they're getting their stuff from RFK. I haven't heard Brad K speak to wanting to race an Xfinity car full time, or part time.

Edited July 23 by ron.brown11
Added more info

[MikePeters95]

Brad was very open on wanting to restart his truck and xfinity pipeline but that they need to get their house in order before they start adding rooms onto the house. 

Latest rumormills have Riley & Terrible Herbst Casino Off Road Team & Monster going to 23xi possible third car, Deegan getting another shot ( congrats all you simps out there! ) at Haas Xfinity as Ford tries to regroup on their non existent development program.

Honestly with Deegan and Herbst having extremely similar backgrounds (if you don't know, Terrible Herbst Casino's in Nevada have been HUGE in offroad and desert racing, that's where Riley comes from, if you don't know who Brian Deegan is you should expand your motorsports knowledge) so this does make sense for Ford as a last-ditch effort for Deegan and her fans, including the creepy weirdo's who write love letters to her every time she post on instagram, and the infamous stalker she actually had to address in an in-race interview, Sam Bo Griffin.  If you want to go down a fascinatingly sad rabbit hole on why maybe the internet isn't the greatest thing ever, check this out:
 

I'm curious how an RFK alliance works, the fact that RFK has gotten Rick Ware cars into top10's still blows my mind, even with Justin Haley (who can drive for sure) behind the wheel, I'm curious what Haas / Custer look like with RFK help.

I am bummed they didn't rebrand the Haas car to 00.  Would have been cool.

[ron.brown11]

5 hours ago, MikePeters95 said:

Brad was very open on wanting to restart his truck and xfinity pipeline but that they need to get their house in order before they start adding rooms onto the house. 

Latest rumormills have Riley & Terrible Herbst Casino Off Road Team & Monster going to 23xi possible third car, Deegan getting another shot ( congrats all you simps out there! ) at Haas Xfinity as Ford tries to regroup on their non existent development program.

Honestly with Deegan and Herbst having extremely similar backgrounds (if you don't know, Terrible Herbst Casino's in Nevada have been HUGE in offroad and desert racing, that's where Riley comes from, if you don't know who Brian Deegan is you should expand your motorsports knowledge) so this does make sense for Ford as a last-ditch effort for Deegan and her fans, including the creepy weirdo's who write love letters to her every time she post on instagram, and the infamous stalker she actually had to address in an in-race interview, Sam Bo Griffin.  If you want to go down a fascinatingly sad rabbit hole on why maybe the internet isn't the greatest thing ever, check this out:
 

I'm curious how an RFK alliance works, the fact that RFK has gotten Rick Ware cars into top10's still blows my mind, even with Justin Haley (who can drive for sure) behind the wheel, I'm curious what Haas / Custer look like with RFK help.

I am bummed they didn't rebrand the Haas car to 00.  Would have been cool.

Mike, I'm not a Herbst hater, and never have been. But even back to his ARCA days, he's never been a consistent winner, and he was with a good team. I don't think he would have been in the 98 for this long, if not for the Monster support. Plus I think that there are other drivers that are better, but don't have the money behind them. 

As for Hailie, she hasn't even matched up to what Herbst has done. I've watched both of them race as far back , when they started in ARCA. And yes, I've actually seen her dad ride in person 3-4 times while living in AZ. Again, I think that there are better drivers out there, that don't have the money behind them. I've said it on here several times, racing desperately needs at least 1 quality female driver. I would love it if there were 10 quality female drivers. That's very good for all racers, tracks, and series. I've also said several times, that teams and/or sponsors are going to be gun shy, after the Danica fiasco, and now Hailie flameout, and they've had the financial backing. I also think that the fans may be getting tired of having a driver, any driver male or female, being crammed down their throats, as being the next great driver. Think back to when Cup was doing their damndest to cram the "Young Guns" drivers down everybody's throat. And the old-timers kept spanking them. They started that campaign a year or two too soon. To me, it's just like having commentators and the media constantly trying to make you believe that you just saw the greatest race ever, but your eyes are saying something different. Beauty might be in the eyes of the beholder, but when the ticket sales and TV viewers are saying something else, who's right? 

I'm still very hopeful that we will get that really talented female driver. But they need to stop trying to force it by bringing them along to quickly. Not every driver can be a Jeff Gordon, and be able to take the pressure, even if the talent is there. Ever since Jeff's success, everyone has been looking for his clone. Not only is that unfair to the hopeful drivers, it's really expensive for those that foot the bill for it, and lose.

I've got almost 60 years invested in this sport, and I'm still a fan first and foremost. I truly want it to out live me.

[MikePeters95]

For sure, the sensationalization of all the 'next big thing' is a societal problem that eclipses motorsports, but includes it for sure.  

You're being accurate, Herbst sucked in a stock car for a long time, and seems to be finally clicking with it. Who knows all the contributing factors as well, drivers are only as good as their setups and understanding of which.    Sometimes it takes folks a while to acclimate, sometimes it just takes a while for them to find someone they can communicate with or for the communication to evolve to a compatible level between driver and crew.  Herbst went from Cody Ware quality stage 1 cautions to putting races together and now actually winning them.  Racecraft IQ has been there but the ability to make it to the end and have patience hasn't been.  Cool to see it clicking.  Xfinity talent pool has gone down a bit so we will see how he does in Cup, in theory.

Time will tell how it plays out but those are the latest rumormill things I've seen and heard from the places that normally are pretty accurate.  Time will tell.

[RodneyRodriguez]

It's going to get interesting for sure. Custer with the one car is no surprise and I think that team may be a little better than we think with leaning out like that. Hailie is a talented driver, I was not a fan of the move to the 15 team I thought it was premature and with everything we have heard about her, it was a slow grooming of her and waiting for the right situation, that never seemed like the of either esp as a rookie in that series. Brett Moffitt did a good job in that cat but he was more prepared for that. 

 

I think Hailie in a LMSC, or a Cup car, would be fun to watch. Those tendencies of the car suit her style. The HAAS Xfinity deal for her, hell yeah why not it's a win for both. 

Jimmie Johnson as an example was that same style, he adapted to the Cadillacs which were cup cars and this new car kicked his ass, even harder in very limited duty. Then, after driving Indy Cars for a year and a half.  

[Josh42]

There are some things everyone needs to remember about Hailie:

Her first year racing trucks was a covid year, so majority of the tracks she went to the first time she made a lap was first lap under green during the race. So they didn't get to make adjustments during practice or even practice on these tracks. 

She drove for DGR with Gray as a teammate who's family was pouring a lot of money into the team.  Guess who gets preferential treatment. 

The truck series is a joke just a bunch of kids with rent a rides and tearing stuff up. How many times was she in wrecks not of her doing because of drivers taking her out on purpose or just being idiots.

She drove a xfinity race with Haas Backing before making the move and ran top 15 I think which is very good.

Now she moves to the 15 team with no team mate, no guidance and new crew chief and everyone expected her to set the world on fire, no manufacturer support. Sorry wasn't going to happen. No offense but when has that team been anything other than a mid to back of the pack car. Yes Moffitt did good with the team but his experience was key. 

The girl did good in ARCA in good cars with MacNally and Toyota support. She got lost in the Toyota pipeline.  Give her good equipment and good team support and you should see a difference. She goes an jumps into a TA2 car and ran good, she gets in her micro's and runs good. The girl can drive she just has never been a given a fair shake. 

I hate hearing the Joey comparison at Chicago. Joey is the one that drove that car to the finish, not the team not the car plus those other drivers don't drive Joey the same way they drive Hailie.

[24nomo]

She had one decent race in 2 years.  She has the same excuses as the other back markers.  It would be great to see her do well.  [edit by Nick Holt, 7/26/2024] Get a new chick in there.  How about Isabella Robusto.