RodneyRodriguez Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 JJ announced he will become partial owner of Petty/GMS and will compete a part-time schedule in '23 beginning with the Daytona 500. That is MASSIVE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24nomo Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 That is great news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 Ah , one of NASCARS biggest cheaters returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted November 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 Chad Knaus never left, Johnson drove the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted November 4, 2022 Report Share Posted November 4, 2022 Those two were tied at the hip. Jimmie knew what was going on especially after it kept happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 3 hours ago, arob said: Those two were tied at the hip. Jimmie knew what was going on especially after it kept happening. WELL not cheating until caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 They were caught several times. Wonder how many championships he would have if he was penalized with no points every time like they do at most Friday and Saturday night tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 hours ago, top_shelf_12 said: They were caught several times. Wonder how many championships he would have if he was penalized with no points every time like they do at most Friday and Saturday night tracks. well i would add harvicks team gibbs teams . and others ... who knows just how much that made the difference ..i dont like cheaters and 48 was not one of favorites ... i built a car for me that was questioned by many before i even had it half built . took the track owner and pit boss to come to the shop seeing i was on hold in the area questioned ....they found it would not play any part in how the car handled ... that car won some races ALL OVER TEXAS maybe six owners and finaly made it back down here 11 years later .. jesse was run over in san antonio and was wreck enough we had to take her apart and rebuilt it as another car .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 12 hours ago, top_shelf_12 said: They were caught several times. Wonder how many championships he would have if he was penalized with no points every time like they do at most Friday and Saturday night tracks. They all cheat in one way or another trying to get that little extra advantage. It's just that some get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 Oh I'm sure they do. That's probably why the phrase, "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying." Is so well known and accepted. Days of Thunder had a bunch of exaggerations but one line in it is true, "There's nothing Stock about a Stock Car." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 4 hours ago, top_shelf_12 said: Oh I'm sure they do. That's probably why the phrase, "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying." Is so well known and accepted. Days of Thunder had a bunch of exaggerations but one line in it is true, "There's nothing Stock about a Stock Car." HECK MY TRUCK ISNT EVEN STOCK ..I i cheated and painted it black .. and changed the factory sterio for mo power and sound .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 Painting it black adds 50 HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 On 11/9/2022 at 6:53 PM, top_shelf_12 said: Painting it black adds 50 HP DONT know who told you that lie MINE SLOWED DOWN .. or did i use the wrong color black .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Matte not gloss. Gloss you need the white race stripes. Matte paint, not rhino lining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 12 hours ago, rebelracewriter said: Don't hate. Appreciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 I PAINTED MY FIRST RACE CAR BLACK cheap walmart paint all the car was worth .. found out painting a white stripe on it still got me run over anyway .. .. i mean the drivers told me they could not see me so the stripe was added .. i think it was because i was a rookie and rookies you can bounce off of and still convence the rookie it was at fault .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 it's only 5 races. so he's only back as an owner. part time driver doesn't count as back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trlrider Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 ..the greatest cheat of them all, is to just make them think you are cheating by screwing with their head. Right Nick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted January 1, 2023 Report Share Posted January 1, 2023 if u are winning races all the time .u are a cheater either way ..i was called a cheater when i won more races or up front finishes than some thought i should . always fun once they saw i was not cheating ..but if u were found cheating once that stuck with u from then on ..nick has told me somethings he has found some very innovative designs and many on the edge ... u dont know how many teams each week nascar finds something in question and that is just that in question and not penalize the team but least warns them not to do it again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 12/31/2022 at 8:05 PM, trlrider said: ..the greatest cheat of them all, is to just make them think you are cheating by screwing with their head. Right Nick! There are cheaters who blatantly cheat and hope they don't get caught. Usually, they are neither bright enough nor good enough to use their cheating to their advantage. Rarely do they even make it to the tech pad. Those are the guys who go around saying that they know the winner is cheating because our team is cheating and they're beating us. LOL There are cheaters who have found innovative ways to cheat with little likelihood of getting caught. Those guys and gals usually run up front. Then here are cheaters who just love to cheat for the fun of matching wits with the tech officials. Then there are those who take no delight in winning by cheating. They do their homework, use the rules to their advantage and are almost always accused of cheating. They are winners. Now, some of us like to leave a few obvious clues around that could possibly mislead our competition. My favorite was to mislabel our springs but keep very good records on a spreadsheet as to the actual spring rates. Then when we made a spring change, we'd leave the spring we were replacing lying around for all the world to see. And we'd put the new spring out on the ground before we put it the car. Some of the rates were so far off from reality that it was a riot to see an unsuspecting team handle like crap after changing their springs to match! LOL Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trlrider Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Nick, my favorite was to take a piece of painted and capped PVC with a couple of wires, hose and a switch. Clamp it next to seat or behind the headrest where it could be seen. Folks would be so busy trying to figure that out, they would not see what we were really doing. i remember putting a window net in the right window with clear plastic sewed to it for one of the TWS races. Cotton Sherland and Bobby Castleberry shook their heads and said we needed to take it out. Never noticed we had not finished the firewall yet because we were late leaving for the track. Finished sealing the firewall before the first practice. LOL, fun times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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