ProTree Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 according to nascar when shane hmiel showed dale jarrett monday during the busch race after hmiel crashed jarrett with about 3 laps to go that jarrett was still #1 with his middle finger on tv when the incar camera was on,it was worth $10,000 and 25 points- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahneFan Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 according to nascar when shane hmiel showed dale jarrett monday during the busch race after hmiel crashed jarrett with about 3 laps to go that jarrett was still #1 with his middle finger on tv when the incar camera was on,it was worth $10,000 and 25 points- I thought, after JR, they were supposed to have a 5 second delay. If they don't, that's FOX's problem and they shouldn't fine drivers for being "human" and doing "what comes natural". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Garrett Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Nascar needs to lighten up on this penalizing drivers points for things like what Shane did , he was in the confines of his car and not out in the public , if the incar camera caught it and FX televised it , thats their problem. Nascar is way out of line on this one and should re evaluate its penalities on these things , taking away points is wrong no matter how you look at it , you want to fine them , thats ok , but dont take away points . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I like NASCAR's reason. Shane is a professional driver and he needs to act like one. The fine fits. They should drug test the punk again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 if there was a delay,the delay guy must of been on a potty break-i watched the race and even i said to myself-damn he just flipped him the finger-they ask hmiel what jarrett said when he stuck his head inside his car and he said jarrett told him he would get him back for what he did-and hmiel said he told jarrett he better hurry up cause he aint got much time left racing-think hmiel was saying jarrett was getting old and washed up-even the announcers said before the end of the race that hmiel has hit everything in sight trying to get to the front these last 20 laps and that was before he took out jarrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahneFan Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 I like NASCAR's reason. Shane is a professional driver and he needs to act like one. The fine fits. They should drug test the punk again. Yeah, but when you're in an intense sport such as racing, things happen and the broadcasters have to know that. If there were in-helmet cams/mics in football, most NFL players wouldn't see their paychecks cause' they'd be going to pay their fines. Do NFL/NBA coaches get fined when the camera hits em' and you can CLEARLY see what they're saying? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 This is NASCAR. Those other sports you mention have players constantly being arrested and we hear about it on the news all the freakin time. NASCAR will not tolerate that crap so we can't compare NASCAR to those other sports. There is a reason they call it a family sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Bryan Cox NFL 1993 $10,000 reduced to $3,000 on appeal Jake Plummer NFL 2004 $5,000 Tim Thomas NBA 2001 $5,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KahneFan Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 This is NASCAR. Those other sports you mention have players constantly being arrested and we hear about it on the news all the freakin time. NASCAR will not tolerate that crap so we can't compare NASCAR to those other sports. There is a reason they call it a family sport. But a middle finger out a car window? That's nothing my daughter doesn't see driving down the road. It's not like they saw him in there snorting a line or anything. He was ticked off (for whatever reason) and did something we all do without thinking twice. What JR did was a little uncalled for, could've been avoided easily, but this sounds like a "heat of the moment" type of deal. Did he know the camera was on in his car? Probably not. Did Jr know the camera was on him... umm... yeah. I wouldn't want an in-car if I was a driver after this. Â And the other sports I mentioned are still pro-sports and they're still considered "family" sports. Don't you remember the whole JJ thing and her getting in trouble for flashing her upper regions during a "Family Event"? Â There are 10x as many NFL/NBA player as there are NASCAR drivers. Yeah, some will get in trouble, but generally speaking, most NFL/NBA players aren't as bad as you think. You hear about 1, 2, 3(?) a year doing something. What about the other however many hundred players who are upstanding and actually do good things. So, I would say it's fair to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 didn't Big Earnhardt (#3) flip some guy off one time and TV thought it was a sign of his intensity ? (and the announcers loved it) that was before J. Jackson super bowl issue and all that jazz but I guess that was a different circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 didn't Big Earnhardt (#3) flip some guy off one time and TV thought it was a sign of his intensity ? (and the announcers loved it) Â The last time he did it was in the 2001 Daytona 500 to Tony Stewart...I thought of that too, but there was a good reason he didn't get fined. Â PS - I seem to recall over the last year or so Jimmy Spencer and Brian Vickers ending up on the police blotter. Not to mention the failed drug test by Hmiel. Â And then there is that deal about Jeff Gordon paying Brooke all that money to cover up the fact he's gay (j/k). I hope all the JG fan's don't flip me off. Nick will have to start handing out fines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 that's awesome !!!!!!! I think we need another "and there's a fight" like the 79 Daytona 500 with Yarborough and the Allison brothers to really test NASCAR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundogC3 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 LL- I-want some of whatever your having--you aint right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBELRACER Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Don't you remember the whole JJ thing and her getting in trouble for flashing her upper regions during a "Family Event"?  had me thinking there for a moment when you said jj flashing her upper regions........i thought you was talking about jimmie johnson flashing her upper regions, i was going to say i dont remember that but it might have happened...............tehehe  And then there is that deal about Jeff Gordon paying Brooke all that money to cover up the fact he's gay (j/k)  now thats funny right there, i dont care who you are............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 nba-the riot in the stands earlier this year-that was pretty-that cost players millions in salary without the lawsuits yet to come-players in the stands grabbing fans by the throat and swinging haymakers-make 20+ million a yr leaving babies coast to coast-guess thats why they make so much to pay for all their kids and their babies mamas and keep their wives and exwives happy too-colby a good example(pay em off)-magic paying rest of his life with aids-the list of the nba babys daddys is a mile long-i think 'wilt the stilt" is remembered more for his bed count than scoring a 100 points in a game and kahnefan,hmiel didnt actually flip the middle finger out the window-the camera was on in the car on the right side pointing towards the driver and as jarrett started to walk away he flipped him from inside the car-he got caught-i would appeal-say i jammed it when i hit him-cant bend it-lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadRacing19 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 NASCAR is going crazy. I hope they don't fine for everything like this. Tempers fly and so does the BIRD. It's not like no one has seen it a million times just watching tv.I do more than that watching a race. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 and martinsville this weekend-ought to be a good one-see who pays back who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 PS Tommy - First Major sports star with aids was Tim Richmond... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProTree Posted April 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 yep,sure was-but magic was the first one to cry over a "cookie" about it-that's bad right thar- i dont care who you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroker Ace Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 If DJarret & SHmiel were from Texas they would have been rolling on the asphalt. Â I'd buy a ticket for that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundogC3 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 AIDS------AINT INTERESTED IN DOIN SH Â I THINK ALOT OF FOLK HAVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer26 Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 My kids see a lot worse than that on the school bus. Don't run a in car cam. No points taken away that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Definitive Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Right now,all of the major sports organizations are in a big race to see which one can be the "cleanest".NASCAR happens to be in the lead.I agree with Jason,and just hope NASCAR keeps a handle on things.That being said,I think they might be on the path to going too far on what they are penalizing.We do need some color and flare in the sport.Can you imagine trying to have a favorite robot racer to root for? Â NASCAR...please don't make these guys afraid to attempt passes. Â Attempting to pass...gives them a chance of messing up...gives them an excuse to argue...gives them flare...makes the sport more fun to watch. Â I just hope they can remain professional and flamboyant at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyRodriguez Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 you got that right Turbo, at least with NASCAR we don't have to worry about all the prima-donna's whining about me me me. you look at all the "big three" contract disputes and hell, nhl thought they were the 4th major sport and they have had one hell of a season ???? !!!!!! this hmiel-jarrett deal is minor in comparison to all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted April 8, 2005 Report Share Posted April 8, 2005 So.....since you street shootings on TV every day, should it not be alright to carry a gun in your racecar? Going by most of y'alls principles it would. Now how freaking stupid does that sound to ya?? I agree with Jason, make him pee in a cup again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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