gen11 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 New IMCA rules are allowing 602 crates with a holley 4 barrell and a 6200rpm chip. Built motors can run the quadrajet until the end of 2011 when you have to switch to the holley 500cfm. Seems to me that crate performance has been enhanced by % and total weight rules in the asphalt classes. No such rules exist for sportmods. That being said, can the crate keep up and who's gonna try it first. They seem to be doing well in the Northern division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 they wouldnt if they wouldnt let them send them off for 5000.more motor work.they work good in the trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilmodified Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 i thought this was starting in 2012? or will it be mandatory in 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 New IMCA rules are allowing 602 crates with a holley 4 barrell and a 6200rpm chip. Built motors can run the quadrajet until the end of 2011 when you have to switch to the holley 500cfm. Seems to me that crate performance has been enhanced by % and total weight rules in the asphalt classes. No such rules exist for sportmods. That being said, can the crate keep up and who's gonna try it first. They seem to be doing well in the Northern division. In my opinion, a 602 with a 4-bbl will hold it's own against the built sportmod motor with the 2 bbl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer61 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Watch out, them crate motors will sneak up on ya and take the class over. If you think Im wrong, look at pro lates, pro-mods, and trucks. To be competitive, you will have to have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertx Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 I think it's a great idea make it a follow the leader class, just like all the other crate classes. Before long it might be as exciting as the cup races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direct-flo Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Do the tracks around here that run crate motors tech them like the built motors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Motorsports Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Do the tracks around here that run crate motors tech them like the built motors? From what I understand, they will be in the Trucks for 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Motorsports Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 I think it's a great idea make it a follow the leader class, just like all the other crate classes. Before long it might be as exciting as the cup races. Most of the trucks in the Truck Series are running crate motors....and there was plenty of passing! I think it makes handling and the driver more critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gen11 Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Is one from the dealer ready to race or do you have to get it blueprinted? What is the point of having a sealed motor rule if the motors are not built equally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Moon Motorsports Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Is one from the dealer ready to race or do you have to get it blueprinted? What is the point of having a sealed motor rule if the motors are not built equally? Race ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 lil.....crates are "optional" and are not subject to claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 dont they come with roller rockers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 jjs....USRA sanction has an optional all aluminum crate motor with with rollers.....supposed to be around 7,500 Based on the latest production version of the small blocks that power the Chevrolet Corvette, the GM Performance Parts CT525 crate engine has went from the research and development phase to a frequent winner on the racetrack in just two years. The engine features an aluminum block and heads, hypereutectic aluminum pistons, nodular iron crank and hydraulic roller that fills the “need for speed" at a surprisingly affordable price. The CT525 is available from Karl Chevrolet in Ankeny, Iowa, for $7,100. For more information, call toll-free 866-551-9188 or visit www.karlperformanceparts.com online. For the 2011 racing season, USRA RHS Modifieds must also utilize an 8,000 RPM rev-limiting chip (7,500 RPM for CT525 crate engines), which will be distributed by the racetrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 dont they come with roller rockers?? 602s have stamped steel rockers - no rollers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usra43 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 There goes more money in a class thats supposed to be an economy class like it was supposed to be to begin with. Every year they ad more and more money adders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 well guess we can kiss this great class goodbye just like the pro mods. just because it's sealed doesn't mean its legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 I think it's a great idea make it a follow the leader class, just like all the other crate classes. Before long it might be as exciting as the cup races. I forgot you like the type of racing where a big open motored car is leading and stops in the center of the corner and drag races to the next corner!!!!! You still gotta handle in the corners bud...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 To preface this....I'm NOT a big fan of crate motors......but....with the cost of motors spiralling out of control something has/had to be done..... From some searching I did....you can get a 602 crate from $3,500(avg.)......There are many people out there spending way more than that right now.....Granted others have the ablity, knowledge and parts to assemble their own for less.... Here's some spec's on the 602.... 602 crate specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ann Naumann Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 I think it's a great idea make it a follow the leader class, just like all the other crate classes. Before long it might be as exciting as the cup races. I forgot you like the type of racing where a big open motored car is leading and stops in the center of the corner and drag races to the next corner!!!!! You still gotta handle in the corners bud...... J.C. Since u'r speaking to my husbands open engine builder, are u referring to my husbands driving!?! LOL Good thing he finally has a crate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer61 Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 To preface this....I'm NOT a big fan of crate motors......but....with the cost of motors spiralling out of control something has/had to be done..... From some searching I did....you can get a 602 crate from $3,500(avg.)......There are many people out there spending way more than that right now.....Granted others have the ablity, knowledge and parts to assemble their own for less.... Here's some spec's on the 602.... 602 crate specs Reb, that was the original intention of the "crate" engine. However, the super lates allowed them in and due to such a lop-sided advantage in weight they became the only way to be competitive. Then the innovators found a way to make there sealed motor 50 more hp than others. And so to compete again you had to spend even more money. And now that some places allow the sealed bolts to be removed, its just going to get more out of hand. I am very curious to see how this will pan out on dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollercam Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 There goes more money in a class thats supposed to be an economy class like it was supposed to be to begin with. Every year they ad more and more money adders. Until you run one think about it before you type!!! I ran one on dirt, in 11 starts got six wins, 2 seconds, a third and 2 dnfs. Since not abusing it with high rpms ect... didn't even have to change the oil once the whole 11 races. Its a great option. Limited #4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertx Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I agree with you JC you have to go thru the corners and yes I like big power down the straights I like fast race cars, not half fast race cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LM-RACER-20 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Crates are cheaper, trust me. When you can buy a race ready crate motor for 3500 or so versus my motor I was running that was about 8000 so this isn't going to kill the class. And my motor was IMCA legal with no cheats before anyone says you cant spend that much on a legal motor. I was making around 400-425hp on a 500 carb. I don't know exactly what the crates make, but for the money, I would have saved money to begin with and bought a crate motor right off the bat. They are very competitive. As far as follow the leader racing, that's already happening at THR in most classes due to qualifying. We mentioned this to the powers that be and suggested that THR go to draw for your starting position like the dirt tracks do. Get rid of qualifying and go back to heat races to try and improve your starting spot. More racing, more fun and everyone gets a chance at starting up front and the fast guys aren't always on the top 2 rows and will need to fight their way to the front sometimes. That's what fans want to see. Get rid of follow the leader racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colgate Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 good one JOHNNY, YA WHAT JOHNNY SAID, he is right, before the qualifying there was very good racing, and now it just follow the leader, very boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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