Budman Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Here's a vid link to a recent sprint car race at the Devil's Bowl in Dallas. Notice anything wrong with this? Here is your ........................... LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersracing Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Here's a vid link to a 2007 sprint car race at the Devil's Bowl in Dallas. Notice anything wrong with this? Here is your ........................... LINK yep there is no vid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 ............ I'll get it fixed. Just give me a few minutes. .................... OK, the link is now fixed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger78 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 no not really nothing jumps out at me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tqj3 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 2006 Spring Nationals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakdad Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I didn't catch it................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Sorry, didn't mean to mislead you. MY problem with this is not the vid, but with the show. Twenty-three sprint cars in a 30 lap feature. That's 690 passes down the front stretch, and no one saw not even ONE driver. These are sprint cars for Pete's sake! The fans are SUPPOSED to be able to SEE the drivers. But HELL NOOOOOOOO! They've put all that shit on 'um now so the drivers are totally hidden from view. IN FACT, I'm not entirely sure they aren't just big RC CARS any more, with no drivers at all, maybe just some cardboard cut-out profiles stuck in there. Its a damn shame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 The left sides of the cars are open, so you can see the drivers on the backstretch. Perhaps not in this vid, but in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badsonic Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 you cant see them because this means the cars are being built safer were not in the 70's and they are made to jump in through the left side so the opening is bigger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neon14 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 well I always thought they went 4 wide on the pace laps for the fans. at least thats what I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97car Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 They used to go 4 wide for a parade lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 World of Outlaws, another hide under the wings sprint car series are the ones famous for the four wide parade lap. Not sure if that is traditional for other series. I know what Buddy is trying to point out is that with each succeeding year,drivers of sprint cars are becoming more and more invisible to the fans and its not real hard to sometimes mistake them for winged modifieds. Personally I really enjoy watching the USAC wingless sprints run and the show seems that much more exciting when you get a better view of the driver plying his skills. Yes the left side is lower but the view of the back stretch while in the top row of the front grandstands is not that great. I know the argument is about safety but looking back over the stats over the years the casualties are about equal between the winged and nonwinged cars. Now Indy car racing is really impressive in terms of sheer power and speed but watching the tops of helmets go by isn't all that thrilling. The old Indy racers had a better view of the driver and I kind of believe that class of racing is not near as popular as it was back in those days. There were 83 thousand at Texas Motor Speedway this past June 7th to watch the Indy car race and I would go as far to say that if those were the old Indy cars of the 60s and 70s era that crowd would have topped 150,000. One thing of importance in this video race Buddy was the fact that there was not one single instance of someone bumping someone out of their way and on the same token, those slower cars moved over when the saw they were outpaced. Clean race. Would love to see something like that at THR just once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I hear you Buddy.....Take those damn wings off!!!!! And while they are at it they should remove the power steering as well. Put those big steering wheels in them. I bet most of todays drivers wouldnt be as good as they think they are if they had to DRIVE the car. Same thing goes for the STOCK cars. No spoilers, Front air dams.or side skirts. Every car should be able to drive over a 4X4 and not touch it. Just HORSEPOWER and MANPOWER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I hear you Buddy.....Take those damn wings off!!!!! And while they are at it they should remove the power steering as well. Put those big steering wheels in them. I bet most of todays drivers wouldnt be as good as they think they are if they had to DRIVE the car. Same thing goes for the STOCK cars. No spoilers, Front air dams.or side skirts. Every car should be able to drive over a 4X4 and not touch it. Just HORSEPOWER and MANPOWER. AMEN Gerald. Good to hear from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Likewise Dano. Good to see you on here Papa. Regarding the sprint cars .......... What the heck, they might as well go ahead and put fenders on 'um if they're going to run 'um like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Buddy, Stop giving the sprint car people ideas!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Smiley Sitton's 305 series has 4 dates without wings. I went and watched em once last year and saw a heck of a race. Watched the guy that started dead last drive to the front for a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Sprint Cars without a Wing, WooHoo! I might go back to racing Sprints without Wings!!! Won my 1st Sprint Car Feature at Devils Bowl WINGLESS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Now THAT'S a cool pic Mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dano36 Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Now that is what I call a sprint car!!! Nice pic Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPA Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Marc In my earlier post I said to remove the power steering. My question is ....Does it really make a big difference? And removing the wings...Is it harder to drive? Could you educate me more on this? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Marc In my earlier post I said to remove the power steering. My question is ....Does it really make a big difference? And removing the wings...Is it harder to drive? Could you educate me more on this? Thanks It is so huge of a differance with wings. With wings the car is planted down on the track, When we put wings on an outlaw sprint car, I could flat foot, never lift the throttle all the way around Devils Bowl with an all aluminum Shaver 410 engine. Take the wing off, you have to lift, use the brakes, throttle and steer more just to get around the track. I have allways said, take the wings off, and we will see who can really drive a sprint car! Quote from a racer: "With the wings on sprint cars, you can teach a monkey to drive it." Jan Opperman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Sooooooooo.........................removing the wing would compell one to actually DRIVE the car? Wow, what a novel approach that would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 More on my non-wing days. I remember in the heat of a race, my left elbow would touch the left rear tire from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted July 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Thanks Mark. Great pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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