Jason Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Well since the SLM series appears to have been killed it looks like SLM wont be at TMS anymore. Why not work out a deal to run the HMP Pro Latemodels at TMS? Their race would probably much closer anyways since they are all crates now. No more runaways. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Well since the SLM series appears to have been killed it looks like SLM wont be at TMS anymore. Why not work out a deal to run the HMP Pro Latemodels at TMS? Their race would probably much closer anyways since they are all crates now. No more runaways. J Jason, Are you sure a crate has the power to pull a 2:91 gear around that track. Remember, the crates are chipped so the gearing will have to be about that and the aero will be the same as a 650 hp car. Some one with just 5 more hp will have a big advantage since none of the cars will be able to reach full speed. Sounds like another very boring race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 asa latemodels run iowa speedway and its a large speedway not the size of tms but still and the guys werent putting out 650 hp there was a restrictor plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpacker Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Great idea. Also how about having the HMP ASA Late Models race in San Antonio during Oktoberfast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacecar Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 Wet sump motors won't last very long at TMS. Even if you have a skid plate to keep the oil pan from scraping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford27 Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 I dont believe tms allows wet sumps on the track anymore for that reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jracer98 Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 While I agree with the wet sump thinking, the first thing that came to my mind is "hanging" those OEM valve springs at 6400 (or whatever the chip max is) for 30 minutes. YIKES !!! Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer Duck Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 everybody knows those crates are almost indestructible .. and cheap! now if they could just fix that wet sump problem it'd be the way to go. LOL!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie49 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Isn't a talledega motor only about 420hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer Duck Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Isn't a talledega motor only about 420hp and about $80K -- it costs big bucks to run flat out for hours and hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supertx Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 I think they should run them at TMS what a show that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie49 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Isn't a talledega motor only about 420hp and about $80K -- it costs big bucks to run flat out for hours and hours. I was just wondering about being able to pull the gear. I also wouldn't think a SLM race there would go more than 250 miles. But yes I agree basically setting an idle at 9000 rpm and running for 4-5 hrs would probably be hard on any motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer Duck Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Isn't a talledega motor only about 420hp and about $80K -- it costs big bucks to run flat out for hours and hours. I was just wondering about being able to pull the gear. I also wouldn't think a SLM race there would go more than 250 miles. But yes I agree basically setting an idle at 9000 rpm and running for 4-5 hrs would probably be hard on any motor. the SLM races at TMS in the past have required a restrictor plate .. knocking the terminal speed down from 190+ to 140+ that's because the typical SLM's body isn't built to withstand those speeds. assuming you can gear the 420 "crate" to run 140+ at 6400 rpm for an hour (that's all they run at TMS), the question then becomes whether the internals can handle the strain. then there's the slow acceleration ... and the resultant drafting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie49 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 the SLM races at TMS in the past have required a restrictor plate .. knocking the terminal speed down from 190+ to 140+ that's because the typical SLM's body isn't built to withstand those speeds. assuming you can gear the 420 "crate" to run 140+ at 6400 rpm for an hour (that's all they run at TMS), the question then becomes whether the internals can handle the strain. then there's the slow acceleration ... and the resultant drafting.... OK. I understand better now. I always wondered what the differences were. NASCAR 420HP 3300+ lbs 200+MPH SLM 650HP 2700-2900 LBS 150mph. Now it makes sense. Especially about the body. That hadn't occurred to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer Duck Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 if ya ever get a chance to look at the bracing in the front of a Cup car you'd be amazed. that's why they always have a large hammer in the pits .. to unbend the bracing that gets "deformed" when someone oops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie49 Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 if ya ever get a chance to look at the bracing in the front of a Cup car you'd be amazed. that's why they always have a large hammer in the pits .. to unbend the bracing that gets "deformed" when someone oops! I just thought that all that bracing was because in cup today that's what you use for passing is a bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer Duck Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 nah, if it wasn't for the bracing they'd never get close enough to use the bumper, 'cause it'd be pushed back thru the radiator by the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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