legacy47 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Sign the #47 up, Trey Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpacker Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I dont have a car so what ever I say does not count. All that I have is a F250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhcougs Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Where is this race going to be at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 23 - Larry Bendele 52 - Umscheid Race Services 54 - Todd McLemore 35 - Greg Davis 5 - Josh Trees ?? - Rod Slack 01 - 61 - Corey Lovell 115 - Alexander 77 - 9 - Gary Buchanan 99 - Casey Smith 10 - Kirby Honeycutt 47 - Trey Mitchell 250 - Mudpacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 If both cars carry the same left side weight aren't they equal, or is there still a disadvantage with the perimiter? And also if the perimiters can't get say 58% why not drop the left side on all of them to 57 or 56.5%. I'm sure Nick or Pacecar will chime in and explain this better, but short answer is that it isn't just about %age. Its about exactly where that weight is. With the offset chassis with the same weight percentages you can put more mass in the exact areas where you need it. One of the biggest advantages inherent in straight rail cars is that are able to obtain the maximum left side percentage permitted the rules more easily than a perimeter car. Therefore, they are able to place whatever ballast is needed to meet the total weight rule very low in the car. A good starting point in any weight rule designed to equalize competition between straight rail cars and perimeter cars would be to give the perimeter cars 58% left with the "heavy total weight rule (since the relatively heavy total weight is enough to give the perimeter cars a real shot at balancing their cars) and permit the straight rail cars to run 57% to futher remove the inherent advantage of low static right side wieght. If adjustments are needed, make them in weight percentages rather than total weight differences. Nick Nick, In order to equalize the 2 chassis, wouldn't it be necessary to increase the total weight to a weight where the perimeters can obtain the left side %, then decrease the straight rails left side by a % or 2? In other words, if you want to give the perimeters 58% and the straight rails 56%, you would have to require both chassis to weight what the perimeters need to attain 58% (about 2800 lbs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Nick, In order to equalize the 2 chassis, wouldn't it be necessary to increase the total weight to a weight where the perimeters can obtain the left side %, then decrease the straight rails left side by a % or 2? In other words, if you want to give the perimeters 58% and the straight rails 56%, you would have to require both chassis to weight what the perimeters need to attain 58% (about 2800 lbs). Rusty, I think if you re-read what I wrote, that's pretty much what I said. Except I didn't state a starting total weight like you did (2800 lbs.). I personally would go with a 2900 starting weight to be sure that all the former SLMs out there would have an equal opportunity. As you know, some of the early fabricated chassis were a bit heavier than the current genre. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 23 - Larry Bendele 52 - Umscheid Race Services 54 - Todd McLemore 35 - Greg Davis 5 - Josh Trees ?? - Rod Slack 01 - 61 - Corey Lovell 115 - Alexander 77 - Jason Ray 9 - Gary Buchanan 99 - Casey Smith 10 - Kirby Honeycutt 47 - Trey Mitchell 250 - Mudpacker What about : Aramendia Brandon Bendele Tommy Grimes T Wade Welch Greg Davidson Chris Davidson Jason Young Thad Felton Heath Stewart Mark Chrudimsky The Bob Garwood Entry Bumbera's Team How Many Cars are sitting in - CC Houston Austin SA Dallas/Ft Worth If you know of cars sitting list the owner or driver on here and lets make some phone calls. I feel we have a pretty decent list for just under week and a holiday week at that. Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday J.C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I did reread your post, and darned if you didn't say that! Sometimes the old synapes don't fire as fast as they used to. The 2800 was arbitrary and 2900 would not only allow the older chassis, but would also allow the LMS's and TSRS cars to go on a diet and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Im with Hray on the 2900 pounds i think youll get other cars to enter. J.C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hcwsracing Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 ok guys just a little hint on some of the rules we will have a press release soon I like the car count so far and we have some exciting news in the next couple of days ok back to the rules. Base weight for all cars is 2900 lbs. before qualifying and/or racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mraracing Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 I would like to get some rules and entryfee payout structure.I was gonna try the asphalt stuff till Racer Roy moved in on it.So if hes gone I will get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 RacerRoy??? who that? When i was running Legends Cars theer was a guy in the stands at TMS on thursday night that was named Racer Roy, he help anounce some of the events. What does he have to do with Super Late Models?? J.C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer61 Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 2900 lbs is cool with me, and i remember you said you didnt have all the rules ready but i was just wondering about #'s after the race. How much give are we talking about? or is it 2900 after the race? Im really not sure what differance it makes though. With JC in the field i probably wont place high enough for tech seriously, great job JC. a dozen cars in 2 days. we'll have a full field for sure!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mraracing Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Sent an email J.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REBELRACER Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 RacerRoy??? who that? thought that was t-d's alter ego at the other track he promoted at........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mraracing Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Nail on the head Rebel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Well since the race or races have noting to do with the USRA and Terry Dickerson. Whos will bring the cars out and support these guys, and show ever promoter and track in Texas at we want to race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Man TXSZ hasnt seen much action today wheer is everyone? As of 01-04-07 23 - Larry Bendele 52 - Umscheid Race Services 54 - Todd McLemore 35 - Greg Davis 5 - Josh Trees ?? - Rod Slack 01 - 61 - Corey Lovell 115 - Alexander 77 - Jason Ray 9 - Gary Buchanan 99 - Casey Smith 10 - Kirby Honeycutt 47 - Trey Mitchell Do we have anymore insight on the rules? Maybe when we get something on track and rules more people could commit to the race. J.C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer61 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 hey J.C., Iknow of atleast 2 more that would probably run, they just dont get on speedzone. Im not speaking for them but I'll try to get you a definate answer. Or have them call you up. I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUmscheid 51 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 hey bro.............i did notice that the #52 only had "Umscheid Race Services" as the driver!!!!!!!!!!!! i know someone who will step in if you are to busy helpin ray drews with his tires. give it some thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Hey Michael i think colt will probably be too busy too with work and all, huh? Sometime in dont know what my brother is thinking when he speaks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUmscheid 51 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 colt starts to much trouble.....well that is atleast what my boss said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacecar Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 Premier Minerals will probably put Brandon in the #52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMSCHEIDRaceServices Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 I was actually think of putting Brandons dad in the car, i heard he was good in his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt15 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 colt starts to much trouble.....well that is atleast what my boss said LOL Too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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