NickHolt Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I was going through some of my junk from when I was competition director at SAS back in the 90's and found this list that I had compiled on a sheet tucked inside an old rules booklet. ++++++++++++++++++ SAS Track Records as of 09/03/94 All-Time Track Record - Jimmy Finger - 17.942 on 07/18/81 Winston Racing Series Late Model - George Hagy - 20.177 on 04/11/92 Winston Racing Series Sportsman - Robert Barker - 21.927 on 08/16/94 Charger - Terry Bernsen - 23.291 on 09/03/94 TIDA Late Model - Kieth Riethmeyer - 19.050 on 08/14/93 TIDA Pro Sedan - Joe Osborne - 22.456 on 09/10/88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoom Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 What are the current SAS track records? In comprable classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 What are the current SAS track records? In comprable classes. Isn't there a TXSZ thread somewhere around here that lists those? Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Nick, Do you know what type of car Finger was driving when he set the all time record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Buddy, Finger was driving for Don Bierschwale at that time. It was probably a Frank Deiny car. You may have heard reference to Speedway Engineering, that was Deiny's company. Not sure who was doing their engines at that time. And I think the crew chief was Mike Dugi. Body style was camaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 That was one really fast car! Wish we had a picture of it on here. Thanks Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoom Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Posted on Aug 14 2006, 10:21 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE (zoom @ Aug 14 2006, 08:29 AM) What are the current SAS track records? In comprable classes. Isn't there a TXSZ thread somewhere around here that lists those? Nick Say nick, you sure are getting tight lipped in your old old old age. First you wouldn't tell me what they are teching and now this. pshhhh. Thats all right, I understand you geritol is probably not working as well today. But seriously, as long as you peeing a steady stream. That's what counts you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Something from a previous posting by Neil Upchurch about the TIDA record at SAS: Tommy Grimes---- 29-Jun-96 ,River City Raceway/San Antonio-1/2 mile -- 18.395 sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASPEEDRACER24 Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I believe that record was broken here in the last few years in USRA... Im probrobly wrong tho... Im sure Nick has some of the USRA records somewhere if he has time to post em he might if you ask nice... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSEPOWER Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Didn't somebody say a hand-held device was used to take that time. Is that how they timed in the old days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I believe that record was broken here in the last few years in USRA... Im probrobly wrong tho... Im sure Nick has some of the USRA records somewhere if he has time to post em he might if you ask nice... :-) I'd have to ask Steve Jung and/or Jean Nesser about the USRA records. Or else ask JM Hallas. He keeps good notes. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE44 Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 WOW 18 seconds in a half mile that is like two 9 second drag runs with four turns in the mix, strait line guys think they are racing !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 WOW 18 seconds in a half mile that is like two 9 second drag runs with four turns in the mix, strait line guys think they are racing !! It is a great time when you look at the track configuration. A lot of factors in the track layout factor into why it is 18 seconds. The turns are short, straights are flat, and so on. Track layout makes a big difference in the lap times. The following are not to belittle SAS, rather they demonstrate the times achieved with different 1/2 mile configurations. Pensacola has more turn, less straight, and is banked all the way around. Eddie Mercer qualified on the Snowball pole last year at a 17.06, on unsoaked tires. A couple years back, when they allowed tire soaking, we watched Jeremy Pate run a 16.22 there. And way back in the early 80's, Mark Martin happened to tour around the 37+ degree banked Winchester, Indiana 1/2 mile at a 14.50 in an ASA Super Late Model. So the track layout has a big impact on the times, but still a 17.9 at SAS is no slouch. I watched Finger turn that lap that night, and it was quick. I believe that record was broken here in the last few years in USRA... Im probrobly wrong tho Marc, I am not exactly sure about the USRA record, but I'm pretty sure a couple guys have run around a 18.25 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivicic Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 txtom, your right. Did I just say that? LOL Last year Bradley ran a 18.23 and Brandon ran a 18.20 the first race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASPEEDRACER24 Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 I kinda remembered Brandon being in the low .20's so they are not that far off then... Tom do you remember if when Finger ran that time if it was a cool day or was it in the dead of summer... I always figured you would see faster times at the start and end of the seasons hear just from the track and air being cooler as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Tom do you remember if when Finger ran that time if it was a cool day or was it in the dead of summer All-Time Track Record - Jimmy Finger - 17.942 on 07/18/81 Middle of summer makes for a nice hot day. Didn't somebody say a hand-held device was used to take that time. Is that how they timed in the old days? Josh. that goes back to a short comment I made that I thought they were timed by stopwatches back then. Nick remembered a timing clock. But neither of us was real sure. Either way, the record is what it is, and we are not going to take anything away from the effort it took to run that time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSEPOWER Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Which fast track would you go with, not only because of the speed, but racing all together where you can have side-by-side racing? Bristol, Winchester, I-70, Salem, or any other you have in mind? I've only been to I-70 out of those tracks, but I also like the Music City and Mobile tracks, which have a lot of side-by-side racing. How much faster will a car be at SAS with soaked tires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddavidchris Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 as i can recall being in the press box with dad they had timing lights that were inbeded in the wall by the flag stand and another by the pit wall opening thats how i remember. David Hayden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted August 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 as i can recall being in the press box with dad they had timing lights that were inbeded in the wall by the flag stand and another by the pit wall opening thats how i remember. David Hayden And they didn't always work right. I recall times when time trials would have to be interrupted while someone got out on the front straight and broke the light beam with a cowboy hat or something to make sure the system was working. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ddavidchris Posted August 18, 2006 Report Share Posted August 18, 2006 Nick, I always liked it when when the cars hit it. Things has change in time. Thinking about now I don't see how that stuff worked then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenw900l Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I REMEMBER BUBBA MENARD RAN A 19.665 IN A LIMITED CAR/ TWO BBL CARB AND LEAF SPRINGS. FINGER SET THAT RECORD IN A BOPP CHASSIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 im pretty sure brandon bendele ran a 17.9 something lap at oktoberfast last year, then they made him do it again and he only ran a 18.0 which is still freakin fast. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I made a page on our site, but I haven't updated it in a while. http://www.leemotorsports.com/tatr.htm Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar2248 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 The lap time ran by Keith in TIDA was done with a V6!! and when Tommy Broke the track record it was the first weekend of the new Pavement/sealer they put on the track... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliottfan Posted August 9, 2012 Report Share Posted August 9, 2012 I was going through some of my junk from when I was competition director at SAS back in the 90's and found this list that I had compiled on a sheet tucked inside an old rules booklet. ++++++++++++++++++ SAS Track Records as of 09/03/94 All-Time Track Record - Jimmy Finger - 17.942 on 07/18/81 Winston Racing Series Late Model - George Hagy - 20.177 on 04/11/92 Winston Racing Series Sportsman - Robert Barker - 21.927 on 08/16/94 Charger - Terry Bernsen - 23.291 on 09/03/94 TIDA Late Model - Kieth Riethmeyer - 19.050 on 08/14/93 TIDA Pro Sedan - Joe Osborne - 22.456 on 09/10/88 Nick there was an article in SA Express News around July 4th 1980 where I thought it said Hubert Bean ran 17.5 at Hi Way 16. I saw the picture of that car - the roof was cut down so low in front I don't know how Hubert saw out out! BTW what did the supers run at San Antonio when they ran in 1980 - I heard that Chet Phillips had run 16.5 in his Hite car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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