Randy5249 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 we are thinking about a outlaw super stock/street stock/sportsman race at sas. need driver imput on weather or not we could get cars. here are some of the rules we have in mind, they are by no means final. we need to know how many people would consider running this race. its paying 2000 to win, and the rest of the payout is not decided yet. 3200 lbs 55% left side 5" frame height 350 or 500 cfm 2bbl 12" crank height 4 link cars can run 3 link w/ panhard bar max displacement 362 3 or 4 speed tranny no 2 speed or direct drive stock dia clutch 25lbs for mini clutch steel aftermarket bodies ok 25lbs for fiberglass hood 25 lbs for fiberglass a pillar 9" 10 and 12 bolt rearends no quick change floaters ok crate motor can weigh 3100lbs 67" track width full frame to center of rear axle weight jacks ok no aluminum, adjustable, or coilover shocks front suspension must be stock big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonSenseRacing Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Did you read the common street stock rule, they are basically the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpyltx8 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 the only "beef" i'd have (except we have no motor) would be that the THR guys almost seem at a disadvantage. But if ya want to race, I guess the trip would be worth it. -Shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Garrett Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 add more weight for the mini clutch , 25 lbs is not enough, otherwise , looks good to me , im in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Garrett Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 what about a cam rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigfat Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Here's your CAM rule. NO CAM Os. That was weak, but someone is bound to get a kick out of it. Are you hung over Pookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingaces Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Here's your CAM rule. NO CAM Os. That was weak, but someone is bound to get a kick out of it. Are you hung over Pookie? BIG FAT STICKTO YOUR DAY JOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNC93 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Don't see enough specifics on motor's. I guess we can run the 550 hp dry sump super late model motor! We'd definitely be interested in this type of race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Day Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 We are very interested in this type of event. but, First off this was a little pre mature in being posted. Allen has been in contact with myself and Terry and we are looking at the possibility of doing such a race. If it is done it will be a race put on by San Antonio Speedway. We thank Allen for his input and idea of running the race along with a sponsorship of the event. WE (SAS) will decide in the next day or two about the Show and will let everyone know then. Thanks Rick Day SAS General Manager & Race Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 At CC we are allowed to lengthen or shorten stock upper control arms. If that is allowed I would be there. Give me a date . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truck99 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 we are thinking about a outlaw super stock/street stock/sportsman race at sas. need driver imput on weather or not we could get cars. here are some of the rules we have in mind, they are by no means final. we need to know how many people would consider running this race. its paying 2000 to win, and the rest of the payout is not decided yet. 3200 lbs 55% left side 5" frame height 350 or 500 cfm 2bbl 12" crank height 4 link cars can run 3 link w/ panhard bar max displacement 362 3 or 4 speed tranny no 2 speed or direct drive stock dia clutch 25lbs for mini clutch steel aftermarket bodies ok 25lbs for fiberglass hood 25 lbs for fiberglass a pillar 9" 10 and 12 bolt rearends no quick change floaters ok crate motor can weigh 3100lbs 67" track width full frame to center of rear axle weight jacks ok no aluminum, adjustable, or coilover shocks front suspension must be stock big john The idea of a race like this is a cool one. I think one reason why you get such a great showing at the post season races is because the points racers are no longer worried about messing up their points battle. It will be interesting to see if having it mid season will detract from that. One thought - if you want to attract the cars that are currently racing at THR, SAS, and CC, use the rules that were in effect at the Oktoberfast/SS Championships/Spectacular rather than the ones posted here. I don't think the mini clutch, aftermarket body, crate motor, or weight jacks are allowed at any of the tracks in the SS/Sportsman class, so why allow it for one race? Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy5249 Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 just trying to get a feeler out there, didnt mean to step on ricks or terrys toes. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacecar Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 the ole two-step, side-step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin34 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 CC has weight jacks What tire would we run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fast18 Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Maybe keep it simple (and inexpensive) on a tire rule so everyone could run what they want or have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcellracing Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 does it have to be a car and are automatics allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonSenseRacing Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 The idea of a race like this is a cool one. I think one reason why you get such a great showing at the post season races is because the points racers are no longer worried about messing up their points battle. It will be interesting to see if having it mid season will detract from that. One thought - if you want to attract the cars that are currently racing at THR, SAS, and CC, use the rules that were in effect at the Oktoberfast/SS Championships/Spectacular rather than the ones posted here. I don't think the mini clutch, aftermarket body, crate motor, or weight jacks are allowed at any of the tracks in the SS/Sportsman class, so why allow it for one race? Just a thought. I have to agree with Chase, having different rules in the middle of the season for one race is expensive, if nothing else. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonSenseRacing Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 does it have to be a car and are automatics allowed? Trucks and the street stocks running together, xcellracing are you looking to give art22 a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonSenseRacing Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 CC has weight jacks What tire would we run? I try to be as politically correct as I can when I post here, but I just read the super street rules for CC. The winner for the rules with the most loop holes in them is, CC !!! All I can say is, read them yourself and you make the call. I'll apologize now, before the CC guys jump all over me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arts22 Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 I try to be as politically correct as I can when I post here, but I just read the super street rules for CC. The winner for the rules with the most loop holes in them is, CC !!! All I can say is, read them yourself and you make the call. I'll apologize now, before the CC guys jump all over me. EAST COAST, why dont you buy CCMS and make the rules they way you like them..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorboy Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 You are right, at this time it is hard to understand the rules. It will be ironed out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWitzsche Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 quite a bit of the rules sound fine,but the frame height and crank height are TO HIGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ups88john Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 i will try to clear some of it up. allen called me on monday and said he had a good idea, run a outlaw race for street stock type cars. pay a decent purse, open the rules up so that all of our cars in texas can run, as well as some teams from other states. this is allens idea, he is not putting this race on. sas and allen are in talks of running this outlaw race, and the rules we put up were just to get imput from DRIVERS that may or may not be interested in a race of this type. it is an outlaw super stock race. basically no one has to change rules, run your track rules for a sportsman/street stock/super stock. let the trucks run, bolt on some lead and lets go racing. thr cars can run the 970, cc can run their tires, sas cars can run their tires, or they can all run american racers. we didnt intend for people to disect the rules as they have not been discussed with sas. just wanted to get imput, and idea of how many cars would possibly show up, that way a decesicion could be made as to weather or not go through with it. with that in mind, how many of the texas drivers would run an outlaw superstock race. big john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonSenseRacing Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 EAST COAST, why dont you buy CCMS and make the rules they way you like them..... That's MR. EAST COAST to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockStan Posted May 17, 2006 Report Share Posted May 17, 2006 Sure I'll take y'alls money................. just kidding but i would run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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