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my .02 cents, I missed where Lalo said he was starting a series and I don't think I ever said I was starting a new class. What is wrong with putting on a race? If Lalo wants to put up purse money and help my track why shouldn't we race by whatever rules he wants. Sly, GB, Will or any other FWD driver if you want a front wheel drive only race on the same night put up the purse and make up the rules lets go. The reason I decided to go with this particular night is the TPS race was cancelled for other reasons and after that Lalo came to me with this idea. It is making the track money and I agree with trying to make money. The Thunders were scheduled to be off all along on this particular night so nothing has changed with the thunder Schedule. Its just a race why is everyone getting so upset? They won't let the CCMS pure stocks run with the USRA super Late Models but the pure stocks are not on here complaining about not getting to race next week. See my point? I will work with anyone that will help me make money for this track. You want to race shopping carts down the front stretch while wearing a dress and will put up the purse for it then we will get it on! Lets just race!

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You want to race shopping carts down the front stretch while wearing a dress and will put up the purse for it then we will get it on! Lets just race!

ONLY IN CC!

 

 

Atta-boy...eerrrr girl.....what ever

 

Git-r-done Owen

 

Maybe get a couple of visitors from your track sponsor to ride in those carts!

 

 

:lol:

That's bad-a$$ funny man!

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they've got one race , at one track????????? that's not a series.......now all you back markers , sidewinders, and mirrror drivers- and hell of all us who are just tired in general of being beat can just go out and start up our own class? this is class act? if this wasnt so humerous it would be hysterically funny.........

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people give it a break why are you folks so against this it takes a start somewhere to get going why dont you people just suport what is going to happen after all its racing in texas the rules will be posted soon . and at least people are trying to do something here everyone says that the rear wheel drives grips to much will they are trying to do something here so just back off if you dont like the race cause you have a front wheel drive well just sit back and watch they have gone out got a date working on the rules and talked to sponsers already if all the cars show up that say they will it should be one heck of a race

 

steven crt racing

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...You want to race shopping carts down the front stretch while wearing a dress and will put up the purse for it then we will get it on! Lets just race!

Owen,

You just might be on to something here...Let's see, Kevin wears a dress, wig, & make-up when he drops the green AND all spotters do the same...oh wait, we saw your legs last Saturday in shorts...a welding hood couldn't cut the glare!!! B)

 

GIT-R-DUN

 

Also, for the record, I really don't think it's about the race, series, whatever you want to call it. If you go back and read the threads, it was more of the "ha, ha, ha we're holding our own race and you can't come play" attitude that I think got this started. On your part, shoot yeah, you got a spot to fill and someone offered. You wouldn't be very business minded if you didn't...

 

PS Owen, if you get me Kevin & your size, I get the dresses ready!! :lol:

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I think its cool that the RWD want to have a race against each other. But, I have a RWD BMW that will keep up with any of yalls little pony's. I don't think this class will last. Just deal with the FWD and beat'em. It's not that difficult, spend the money and get the car set-up. A RWD drive car that is set-up should blow the doors off any FWD car. Can I race against yall stangs in 8-13 show, I bet I can run with yall with BMW. MPOWER!

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You can but if you win there will be some reason that you had an unfair advantage. Then again if you have a 4 cylinder, a driveshaft, 13" wheels and 8" tires then you pass tech the way I see it. Hey anybody got an old Indy car with a 4 cyl offy in it? :P

 

Can you run an audi quattro if you drop the front driveshaft?

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sam im still around and kicking i just build cars and set them up now and speedster41 we welcome all rwd's to the race the rules should be posted soon just finished the rough daft and have someone looking over them to see if its alright . people lets go racing

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As a fan let's see what happens first.There is nothing more boring to a fan than seeing a race when you can safely assume who is going to win before it is ever run.Mr. Will , I have to disagree that 4 cylinders are the future of racing and that they should be the top class.I believe this was said about the V-6 taking over several years ago. There is something about the sound of a V-8 that the sound of racing should be. You are right about putting a car out there that people can relate to . Kyle has done this and they have the best looking cars . Could this be accomplished here by hanging a later model body on the existing chassis? Anyway good luck on your race Lalo .The only thing ,as a fan ,I worry about is the disparity in speed that is in the TT class. If 2 or 3 of you guys run away from the rest of the field it would be no different than before.

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As a fan let's see what happens first.There is nothing more boring to a fan than seeing a race when you can safely assume who is going to win before it is ever run.

I agree totaly!! And as one of the main sponsors for the 14 Neon it really bites to build a car that loses. Will built a Pinto before the neon and that car was a handfull. It always broke and was real expinsive for silly parts like flywheels. Customers would come to the store and look at that car and say what is it? While working on the neons customers would keep bringing all there freinds to see the race cars. That was a unexpected. The Real reason we built neons was for economy!! The parts are stupid cheap. And they are fast stock. The car racing now was built for 3800.00 including buying the running car. that is total including motor work, tires, rims, cage, fuel cell, seat, springs, guages, battery, steering wheel, belts, all bought brand new at bartells. Another big plus was not having to do any tuning on the motor!!! The car just starts and runs. No timing adjustments or carb tuning or valve lash. We were worried that the technoligy in the neon was to old and not reliable since the car was made in 1994 but so far no probs. I think todd has blown a whole 1700.00 on his honda now including buying the car. All mechanics today work on fuel injectid cars. Thats all there is! So if you need info its easy to get. Plus the intenet is jammed with parts and mods for FWD fuel inj cars. After sitting out of racing for 2 years. Then as a sponsor and car owner trying to get back in racing RWD was just not a economical option for a competitive car. I just don't have that kind of money. I never post on these sites but I am stummped at the stuborn relent of not letting go of the past. I go the NOPI races and am amazed at the insane crowds and following of FWD 4 cyl cars. It has a huge following of todays youth. Then I came to our race track and people blow tons of money on RWD fighting the obvious.

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Hint- this is some of the cars we looked at before building a neon.

 

Focus

escort

probe

corrolla

tercell

accord

gallant

eclipse

omni

mx3

Sorry GB we never found a volkswagon on our quest

 

Naw we had the first neon 4door 4lug(wills wifes car) so buying a second neon (2 door 5 lug) for the car now was the only choice.

 

But cars above have 4 wheel indipendent suspesion and motor parts are easy. and all of those have a 130hp or more motor stock.

 

hint hint

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its always been ford to ford , chevy to chevy, dodge to dodge if its a factory car that once was offered with a 4 cly then it should be legal and it fits into the wheel base group and other question please ask well help anyway we can

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Well now top dog,

 

I thought the argument was that you had to spend tons of money on a ford to compete. But apparently the real argument is that you want to spend 600 and compete with guys spending 3-4 k. 3800 for a race car is not a lot of money. 600 for a race car is ridiculous. Yes a lot of people can spend very little money, yes even 600, but their not going to compete for a win in a bicycle race with that kind of money in a race car. Many people have been lambasted (all in good fun I hope) on here before because of what they thought their car was worth. This is the first time I ever heard someone take the stance that it costs too much to be competititive because "I spent 600 and I'm not competitive". Sounds like the real gripe here is that a few want to spend very little money but they want to compete with average spending or high dollar teams. Sorry but if you think that you should be able to compete with the Bill LaBarges (sp) of the world while spending 600.00 weeelllll, sounds like your in the wrong sport.

 

600.00 should buy a nice dress and one hell of a shopping cart though. :D

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rookie sorry you are not looking at the facts lalo's car is fast its one of the fastest mustangs running with the pro sedans when the pro sedans didnt make him run a restrictor in like 4 races he finished in the top 5 in all races running with bill labarge and donnie moore he had 1 win in corpus christi setting a new track record however then the pro sedans seriers decided to slow him down made him run a restrictor and cut his left side weight down and how much money you spent doesnt matter it matters on what you spend the money on fast cars can be built useing stock items

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see from what i hear will has a fast neon so what would he do if all of the sudden the track says will your to fast lets put a restrictor on your car so the others can catch up and in the process make it will will could only finish 4th or lower this is what most of the gripping is about

 

 

sorry will not trying to get u upset just using u as a example

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This is some funny Crap here. I don't see the issue of someone spending THEIR own money to put on a race! If the FWD guys wanted to put up their own money and put on a race on an off night for the TT cars then I am sure CCMS would let it happen .

It's kinda like Saying I want to put on a SS race with only Metric chassis allowed ,if I put up the money it's my rules and that's the way it is .........

I guess my only quiestion would be is how many REAL Pro 4 cars will be at the race?

 

Rick, I know the fields need plowing so us the extra day off racing and use the truck for what it was made for PLOWING !!!!! HA HA

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