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NASCAR racing is not, and probably never will be, an equal opportunity sport.  The folks who decide who will be the next NASCAR stars are lawyers and marketing folks at big corporations. Period. NASCAR knows this and, frankly, deep down inside, we all know this.

By posturing as being politically correct, NASCAR is simply protecting its lifeblood - money from large corporations who are playing the PC card big-time these days.  

That NASCAR acquiesed to the leftist agenda without much of a stuggle is somewhat surprising to me.  But, as Reb always says, "What do I know?"

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Where to begin with all this nonsense. 

I'll start with the Confederate flag. Means nothing to me. But I understand those that support it for the right reasons. For those that are against it, calling it a racist flag, there are those that absolutely view the American flag as racist. And they are serious. You are either with them or against them. Can't be both. It is what it is to each and we should have the freedoms to decide. Nascar made a decision, and so did many of the fan base. Prayers and National Anthem are most definitely non inclusive to the crowd they are pandering. So get ready for that to be attacked since Nascar has shown their weakness. $$$

Nascar and the Fake Noose. Pun intended. Imagine your friends turning on you without cause because someone accuses you of something. Never taking the time to make sure because they themselves were afraid of being accused of the same. Nascar did that to their fan base. They stepped aside and let the fans take the bullet. Apologies NOT accepted, if they even come. 

Support your local race tracks and hope they never find themselves in a position to have to pander to the left. 

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Insightful article from Fox Sports Insider:

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In today’s FOX Sports Insider: Tuesday brought a welcome development in this weekend’s NASCAR incident, yet all the support is still just as important ... we look back on how a collection of future and present NBA superstars in 2010 changed the league forever ... and we think we might have found the inspiration for the next “Air Bud.”

Don’t let anyone tell you it doesn’t matter now. Don’t let anyone tell you that Bubba Wallace’s cause, his plight, his courage and his resiliency somehow count for less.

Don’t let anyone tell you that all those lump-in-the-throat moments that were produced by NASCAR’s Geico 500 race at Talladega on Monday aren’t worth as much as we thought, because they are.

Tuesday afternoon brought a stunning twist to the turbulent saga that engulfed stock car racing last weekend and sent it on a wild ride since. Two days after a garage door pull rope fashioned like a noose was found in the garage stall of Bubba Wallace, the Cup Series’ only Black full-time driver, the Federal Bureau of Investigation determined that the item had been there since some time last year and that it was purely incidental that Wallace had been assigned that stall.

No one had planted it there, like it appeared, with the intent to either make Wallace fear for his life or as a sick stroke of revenge for his resolute and impressive public calls to make NASCAR more inclusive.

The truth matters, which is why a Wallace team member alerting NASCAR and NASCAR bringing in the FBI was the correct thing to do. NASCAR President Steve Phelps said that no other garage at Talladega had its pull rope fashioned like a noose, and that given the evidence, NASCAR would have handled the incident the same way: “To be clear, we would do this again,” he said. “Of the evidence that we had, it was clear that we needed to look into this.”

It is right and just and something to be thankful for that the bottom of the matter was found and we now know more about what happened.
 
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However, the reaction from the NASCAR community still matters, too, even though it was in response to something that didn’t actually take place.

When they believed one of their own had been wronged, NASCAR’s drivers and teams went to work in ways that warmed the soul and tested the tear ducts. Different things set off the emotions of different people. For some, the raw brotherhood and humanity that saw Wallace, fuel-empty in the most important race of his life, being pushed to the pits by rival Corey LaJoie was enough to bring out the goosebumps.

Or the sight of Richard Petty, 82 years young, breaking his own self-imposed quarantine to show out in support of Wallace, his driver.

Or, in one of the most extraordinary moments in the history of a sport that thrives on dizzying speed, the slow, somber, utterly united pre-race march down pit lane, as Wallace’s No. 43 Chevrolet was pushed and escorted by all of his competitors and their crews.

Most likely, all of those things stirred the emotions, even for those with little interest in professional stock car racing. Bubba Wallace wasn’t crying, you were crying.

Actually, Wallace was moved to tears, both by the backing of his competitors and in the moments after a contest where he led toward the latter stages before coming unstuck due to fuel issues.
 
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“It was the we’ve-got-your-back moment,” FOX Sports’ NASCAR Insider Bob Pockrass told me via text message. Pockrass was referring to the march before the start, but it could just as easily apply to the whole response to what was then believed to be a sickening act.

Sadly, there were many cynics who reacted with glee to the FBI announcement, presumably the same types who tried to put forward a hoax theory about the noose, with the implication that Wallace planted it there himself.

Yet while the haters couldn’t make Wallace lose his smile, the detractors couldn’t take the shine off NASCAR’s vital moment, either.

“When you think about the images that took place, we have got to remind everybody that those images were real,” former driver and FOX Sports NASCAR analyst Regan Smith said on Race Hub. “That doesn’t change one bit what we saw in that front stretch. That is what this sport is.”

Whether Wallace was indeed the target of a direct hate crime or not isn’t the issue here. The fact remains that in his time of need, at a time when he had every reason to believe he had been on the receiving end of racist terrorism, Wallace had a multitude of hands on his shoulder.

“I don’t want it to be remembered as a terrible day or a bad day in NASCAR,” Wallace’s friend and race winner Ryan Blaney said afterwards. “I want it to be remembered as there was an incident and we all overcame it together and showed that we’re not going to take it anymore.”
 
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Wallace has spoken out recently, as he absolutely has the right to. Those who don’t want athletes to be activists still don’t get it, but they are fighting a losing battle.

Many of the top athletes in this generation, from LeBron James to Patrick Mahomes, are starting to mirror the great athletes of the past, like Muhammad Ali, Jim Brown and Tommie Smith, who chose not to "stick to sports." These athletes believe sports is a part of American life as a whole, which in turn is intertwined with these larger social issues. And when they see a need to lift their voices, as Wallace and his sport did, they are no longer hesitating.

Even as the drivers stood by Wallace on Monday, there were still Confederate flags flown defiantly outside Talladega, and a banner streamed from a plane overhead. Inside the speedway, the Associated Press interviewed a fan who thought the noose incident was “funny.”

Humor takes many forms, but when a prank manifests into terrorism — for that was the information at the time — there is no room for laughter.

Wallace has been a spokesman for change. Heck, he’s been a statesman for it, with measured tones, an understanding of history, and arguments that ask for decency, propriety and equality, nothing more.
 
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He has put forward the simple truth that Black lives do indeed matter and are worth campaigning for, and that the use of a flag representing slavery and oppression should not be welcomed in a sport that seeks inclusion.

He has stood as a man in a unique position, and rallied others behind him in a way that shows his views are heard and felt and that he should not feel alone.

He has prompted NASCAR and those who live within its reaches to actively turn their back on a difficult and uncomfortable history, and seek new beginnings.

“I knew I should have won that damn race,” Wallace smiled after Monday’s race.

Truth is, he did. Don’t let anyone tell you different.

 

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39 minutes ago, MikeReininger said:

Where to begin with all this nonsense. 

I'll start with the Confederate flag. Means nothing to me. But I understand those that support it for the right reasons. For those that are against it, calling it a racist flag, there are those that absolutely view the American flag as racist. And they are serious. You are either with them or against them. Can't be both. It is what it is to each and we should have the freedoms to decide. Nascar made a decision, and so did many of the fan base. Prayers and National Anthem are most definitely non inclusive to the crowd they are pandering. So get ready for that to be attacked since Nascar has shown their weakness. $$$

Nascar and the Fake Noose. Pun intended. Imagine your friends turning on you without cause because someone accuses you of something. Never taking the time to make sure because they themselves were afraid of being accused of the same. Nascar did that to their fan base. They stepped aside and let the fans take the bullet. Apologies NOT accepted, if they even come. 

Support your local race tracks and hope they never find themselves in a position to have to pander to the left. 

Well put, they did step aside and let their fan base get steamrolled. And I am and have always been a nascar fan, I spend a considerable amount of money chasing that circus. They never should have injected themselves into any of it and stuck to the racing. You would think they have enough issues to deal with trying to race in a pandemic.

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I wish we could see the evidence (pics) of the garage door pull rope knot that was "fashioned similar to a noose" knot. Someone could have tied a Canadian Jam Loop knot or the common slip knot with a stopper knot (which the loop does not pull tighter or smaller), which looks like a Noose Knot (which the loop tightens when loaded).

The Jam Loop knot / slip knot with stopper would be very suitable to grab to pull down a heavy garage door.

Or, perhaps someone tied a commonly used fishing lure attachment loop knot called the Kreh Loop Knot (the loop does not pull tighter or smaller), which appears similar to the Hangman's noose knot (which the loop tightens when loaded).

The Kreh Loop Knot would be very suitable to grab to pull down a heavy garage door.

Maybe NA$CAR needed a tech inspector that knows all about the different types of knots.

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This is from Bob Pockrass of FOX. This is the rope in question in stall 4. This pic from the fall 2019 race. 

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3 hours ago, MikeReininger said:

Where to begin with all this nonsense. 

I'll start with the Confederate flag. Means nothing to me. But I understand those that support it for the right reasons. For those that are against it, calling it a racist flag, there are those that absolutely view the American flag as racist. And they are serious. You are either with them or against them. Can't be both. It is what it is to each and we should have the freedoms to decide. Nascar made a decision, and so did many of the fan base. Prayers and National Anthem are most definitely non inclusive to the crowd they are pandering. So get ready for that to be attacked since Nascar has shown their weakness. $$$

Nascar and the Fake Noose. Pun intended. Imagine your friends turning on you without cause because someone accuses you of something. Never taking the time to make sure because they themselves were afraid of being accused of the same. Nascar did that to their fan base. They stepped aside and let the fans take the bullet. Apologies NOT accepted, if they even come. 

Support your local race tracks and hope they never find themselves in a position to have to pander to the left. 

Very well said. I've watched all three series for as long as i can remember and have been a cup fan since the 80's. They took away the flag and then allowed kneeling during the anthem. I will not watch any sport that allows kneeling, therefore, I am done with Nascar. Dirt track racing for me.

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NASCAR  OPEN MOUTH INCERT FOOT .AGAIN NASCAR SHOULD HAVE NEVER TOOK A SIDE . YOU CANT WIN NOW NASCAR .

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someone suggested that a 4 way lug wrench  be thrown in the 43's pit box and Nascar do an investigation of it being a religious cross

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The "noose" fit into a narrative of social commentary that NASCAR jumped on. Had it been a true noose, then yes, absolutely Wallace deserves the solidarity he received as there is no room for that in any shape. The pull rope was in poor design. Every shop door at work has a pull rope, none with a loop tied to the end of it, just a dangling rope with a tight knot to the bottom of the door. I don't see why a garage door would need a loop at the bottom. As Nick alluded to, NASCAR is a large corporation and with their struggles in attendance recently, they are relying heavily on corporate sponsors. Honestly, I think the FBI had better things to concentrate on than a pull rope. I recently saw a video of a confrontation between Wallace and Alex Bowman in which Wallace threw some water on a seated Bowman. Was that a racist thing? No it wasn't, it was simply a driver expressing some disgust with another driver. This hypersensitivity is only going to divide us further.

As for the flag, I guess Texans should find the Spanish, French, Confederate, and the US flag all offensive, yet the Six Flags Over Texas are embraced and now, most places have no qualms with the flags and especially in South Texas, you'll see Mexican flags pretty regularly. No opposition or protest, it is history, it is heritage and it's a part of our culture collectively. Even Juneteenth is a little different in Texas as it was the last state the slaves realized they were freed.

This society has been radically changed and divided. There's no longer a "work for it" mentality, it's an "entitlement" society. This generation wants everything handed to them and feel like they're owed it. Don't get me wrong, there are still things that are way out of line and should be called out and addressed, but the greater things in life isn't going to be handed to you. You do deserve it, but you got to work for it, earn it (financially speaking). 

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..    RACISM  has always been out there and will never go away  in many shapes and forms . it is your reaction to it that matters ..  this bs certain groups of poeple are doing isnt about racism that is just an excuse for anarchy ..their way of being who they are destructive  lawless trash ..  ..

Too add to TOP SHELF ..  every living soul in this great country has the same rights to move up the scale each person has the righto make up their mind .. do i want to be rich do i want to live a good middle class life .or do i want to live in the dumps and have others pay my way .. . one of the main issues for many is they take a no for an answer and give up .. that isnt my problem or yours to fix ..  

 

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my wife and I had a good laugh at these two .. on live leak  look up NASCAR BUBBA WALLACE HOAX CONFERMED  VIDEO … LOVE  TO  SEE IT ON HERE BUT NICK MIGHT SAY NO .. .. funny yes but   a lot of reality ..  look up top left . where is says news and politics .

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