Nathan Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 My favorite class at CTS was the pro trucks! My question or idea is have any of the pro trucks thought about taking them to dirt? I would love to see them on dirt. Maybe if enough drivers/owners get together and have a good truck count one of the dirt tracks around here will give them a place to race. I figured I37 or cottonbowl as both are centrally located with CTS. Maybe Joe and heather at 281 speedway may consider it. Just a thought to see if there would be interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Mark Chrudimsky did this a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Rusty Mirth did it at I-37 5 or so years back. He did really well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 The trouble is that most of the trucks have gone to very high rebound shocks that hold the nose down flush to the track. The geometry is set differently since there is little movement of the front end up and down due to the tie down shocks. In the good old days, not many changes were needed to put a Pro Truck on dirt. Maybe take of the sway bar and make a few front end adjustments. They did well as long as the track went dry-slick which was more like a greasy asphalt track. They did have a lot of trouble on sloppy or tacky tracks though, where "side bite" as more important. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipperd93 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 NASCAR runs their trucks at Eldora, and the fans love it. I think it is a great idea. I used to go to HMP every Saturday night before they quit running the oval track. The trucks were always a popular class with a good "car" count. Sounds like plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipperd93 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 The trouble is that most of the trucks have gone to very high rebound shocks that hold the nose down flush to the track. The geometry is set differently since there is little movement of the front end up and down due to the tie down shocks. In the good old days, not many changes were needed to put a Pro Truck on dirt. Maybe take of the sway bar and make a few front end adjustments. They did well as long as the track went dry-slick which was more like a greasy asphalt track. They did have a lot of trouble on sloppy or tacky tracks though, where "side bite" as more important. Nick That may be true, but since there are no asphalt tracks around, the changes wouldn't have to go back and forth. The trucks could be made "dirt ready", and kept that way. I think it would be an interesting class. Right now, dirt tracks are running 3 or 4 variations of "Hobby Stocks", and limited modifieds. A little something different would be a welcome change in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Absolutely, Chipper. But I suspect that as long as there is hope that one of the asphalt tracks will open at some point, the big investment in shocks and rebuilt front ends will probably make it difficult for some teams. And I think that even if they have to drive to the SE to race, some will protect their investment by hauling far, far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipperd93 Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Absolutely, Chipper. But I suspect that as long as there is hope that one of the asphalt tracks will open at some point, the big investment in shocks and rebuilt front ends will probably make it difficult for some teams. And I think that even if they have to drive to the SE to race, some will protect their investment by hauling far, far away. No doubt, Nick. It's a shame that a state as big as Texas has no asphalt racing. It also makes it difficult to build the sport with all of the uncertainty. Not too many racers can build a car (dirt or asphalt) on a "just in case" basis. It would be great to have a commitment along with class rules sooner in any situation. Definitely an ongoing problem for all tracks. Real Estate Developers are giant predators who want apartments, and shopping centers instead of race tracks. At the end of the day, I firmly believe that is the #1 problem. Many of them are disguised as local politicians who create obstacles for our sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPosse Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Well, I think one of the problems with our sport is that it has become so specialized. As a result, we have increased costs and an inability or unwillingness to compromise in order to "protect their investment". Don't get me wrong, I would probably do the same thing. There is no easy answer, but its a shame that a lot of cars/trucks will be parked because there's no place to race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Whats that saying you wont miss me till I am gone or its gone ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 How about we support the few local tracks we have left? Whether it's dirt or not. It'll be a lot cheaper than traveling out of state and buying the expensive shock packages lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tps_55 Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 I am actually planning on taking my pro truck up to 281 Speedway. I believe Joe invited all the trucks to run in the street stock class in an earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 you can get a shock package from day motorsports for not that much money. I also say let them run on the rules they had for and o the tires they had for the take offs like Factory stocks do. I would just love to see them on the track and if I can ever afford one I would love to have one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh42 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I think if you can find them the older ARTS style chassis would be perfect for dirt. There was about 5 or 6 trucks that ran at Gator in 2014 I believe it was Chrudimsky< Gunnar and a couple others that did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm44 Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 We do welcome all trucks to the street stock class. The one issue I see is the fiberglass versus steel bodies... Message me for directions or questions anytime 512-636-0528 Joe Spillman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yup, and he won his heat and feature on 4-20-2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Rusty Mirth did it at I-37 5 or so years back. He did really well! His heat race win picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloutpc17 Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Trucks would get better right side note from body roll due to being more top heavy. I don't know anyone who would use an asphalt shock on dirt. I was there that night when Rusty won in his truck. I believe he did it also with a 305 engine. Also, Bud and Charley Henley did it too with their metric truck purpose built for asphalt by Benker. They did very well and won a couple races in it in the limited late model class with those big dirt tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KISS_Racing Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 10 years, Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 10 years, Wow! When you put it like that; I have a lot of historical content. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 if its been 10 years then that is too long. Like Joe said bring them to 281 speedway. also would the truck owners have any interest in creating a traveling series that goes to multiple tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looneedude Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 The "trucks" are really just a metric frame stock car with a truck body. The older ARTs chassis were/are too tall to make a "stock car" body look like it belongs. However the more modern style truck chassis that are/were racing along the gulf coast, southern florida and the South East class of that are still based on the GM G Body chassis aka metric frame have allowed for the main roll cage to be lower and further back on the frame. With the later model ARP and Five Star truck bodys you can pretty much mount the roof at almost any height desired at nearly whatever setback you want by the placement of the A and B cab pillars. So in theory you can just as easily put a truck body on a stock car and a stock car body on a "truck" chassis. As far as repurposing a truck chassis to run dirt....pull off the sway bar, raise the ride heights, raise the nose peice (for clearance if you want) and have fun throwing it off in the turn sideways. Side note sometimes a dirt/asphalt mixed setup can work well on some of those summer time dry slick tracks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted April 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 I would love to see a traveling series that would take the trucks to both dirt and asphalt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones566 Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 Golden Triangle track allows trucks in their street stock class as per TOSC rules. Not necessarily a pro truck though as the suspension is required to be Stock. Is anyone running something similar? Technical data or even videos of them seem to be pretty non-existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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