South Texas Speedway Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I hate to throw out issues on a public site but I feel in this case it will be most beneficial. The last three races we have had issues with people drinking in the pits during and after the races. First during the racing: I know this has gone on for years. We live in a different world then we did 10 years ago. If you or a team member get caught drinking during the races you will be Dq'ed and asked to leave the pits. If you look over the legal limit to drive we will get you a taxi. After the races: If peoples property continue to come up missing and physical altercations continue we will be forced to close the pits and kick everyone out at a set curfew time. So I need your help: I DO NOT want to have to get involved. You are grown men and women. Please work with me and look around during the races. If you see someone misbehaving say something to them nicely. Lets keep STS a kid friendly and safe place to race and have fun. Thank you for your help, Ken Hobbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I am correcting my post after finding out drinking was aloud during the nights show with previous management . wow hard to believe but reliable source .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I always thought that was the rule anyways for the "during" part. Aren't you supposed to surrender pit pass if drinking? After the races, OK have a beer or two, but don't get back in that car. I know several cars go back out for hot laps and the fans are allowed in the pits after and that's a good thing, but if we have people that had been drinking in a car, it's a nightmare waiting to happen. Drivers and fans have been pretty good about keeping an eye out for each other, especially after the completion of events. Sorry you have to say this Ken, should be a rule that's already known and enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I agree 100% about the during and like hi-tech always thought that was the case all along.Don't really have a problem with closing the track down say midnight or one hour after last race. Glad you are taking a stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 What has come up missing? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 THIS stealing has got to stop .scumbags .with folks staying in the pits over night and some leaving their equipment should be able to feel safe .this not only hurts the team that lost but puts a bad taste for anyone in the future from anywhere wanting to park over night .hope they are found ..as for fighting that's bs too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrigg Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I have been one of the guys that leaves my equipment in the pits on two day shows. I have never felt that racers would steal from fellow racers but times may have actually changed that much, I hope not. I have been the victim of a major racing theft from our place of business and it is a very bitter experience, especially when you can't find who was responsible. Good luck to those that lost property and may the thiefs be caught and dealt with harshly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 I don't , or would like to think it is not racers doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted September 8, 2016 Report Share Posted September 8, 2016 Hope not but seems to happen too often. Hope the donations taken Sunday at least helped a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpreston Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Two weeks ago when pure stocks ran, our pit stall was gone through while we were on the track. All that was stolen was a 3ft flashlight but you could tell somebody was shuffling through other things also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Where were you parked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpreston Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 On the side next to staging. Between the major's and TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 that's close to the pit gate. that could have something to do with it. hope get your light back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpreston Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 No biggie I'm just glad it wasn't something else. But from now on I'm going to be a lot more careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 The vast majority of racers are honest, good-hearted folks who would never steal from a fellow racer and are well known for coming to the aid of fellow racers in need. But once in a great while, we learn of a racer stealing from a fellow racer. Frankly, any racer caught stealing from a fellow racer had best move to another state because racers don't take kindly to thieves. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 I know STP took donations during Sunday's Driver's meeting and also in the stands. Probably won't replace everything, but seemed to be a pretty good response. Sucks this stuff is happening, especially at the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 Oh how the times have changed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Oh how the times have changed! I've only been directly involved in the sport for 55 years, so maybe I'm not the right one to be making commentary on how the sport has changed. But... 1) Back in the day, folks respected their competition, the fans and the track/series management. And I'm not talking about the phony kind of respect you see folks trying to pass of as genuine these days. 2) Back in the day, you never heard of anything being stolen from the pits. Sure, stuff was stolen from motel parking lots and thieves would break into someone's shop and take whatever they could, but at least you could trust a fellow racer with your stuff - without question. 3) Back in the day, racers had their own code of behavior and if someone broke those unwritten rules, that someone ended up wishing they hadn't. Each track had very similar sets of unwritten rules, almost as if they had the internet and shared their stuff with each other. It was just plain common sense stuff that anyone with half a brain and some idea of what it tales to be a good neighbor would understand right away. Call me an old fart, old-school, washed up or whatever. Frankly, I am just about fed up with what I see taking place at most tracks these days. And it's not that I'm a negative sort of guy. In fact I've spent the last 15 or 16 years making sure this site stays as positive as possible - with varying degrees of success I'm sure. I'm not much for boating and I'm not sure I could even bait a fishhook, but at 72 I've taken up the civilized sport of golf, which is taking more and more of my time these days. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 well from the reports you tell me and the smiles on son of yours face ///.your not really that good at golf .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Some truth to that, HiTech. But I'm getting better now that I've figured out that those clubs aren't baseball bats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 just never figured out why you want to hit a ball just to go chase it down . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAggie13 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 It's all in pursuit of the satisfaction gained from that one great shot, and the sound the ball makes when it hits the bottom of the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 This thread now reminds me of Robin Williams talking about the invention of golf. Won't post it here since the language is pretty harsh in parts but worth looking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exjet145 Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Racing is a lot like golf. About the time you're ready to sell your car or throw your clubs in the trash and give up, you have a good run or hit a good shot and all is good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Well, bottom line here is that Ken is asking for our help and I hope that folks will honor his request. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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