xmod97 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 (Cotton Bowl Speeedway Crate Late Model Tire Rule) Tires stamped "Crate Racing 55" are mandatory on all 4 wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtworx4me Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Xmod 97 do you work at the track or are you an official that makes this call? I don't know who you are is why I am asking. Not trying to question your authority. Just want to know who is stating this. I was under the impression based on Nesmith Weekly Rules that Hoosier D21 & D55 stamped "Crate Racin' USA" and shoulder plated were allowed. The D21 must punch 46 or harder when cold and the D55 must punch 60 or harder when cold. If only D55 are allowed I am fine with that but if both are allowed I would like to know that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm44 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Xmod97 is Jimmy Dearing...head official at the track. Most rule updates and info will come from either him or Wayne Walker. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybox racing Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 I was under the same impression. I would like to run at the other Nesmith tracks with the D21, ( two set of tires ) . Just curious of the reasoning for this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtworx4me Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Thank you SM44. Now I know who is posting the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagle69motorsports Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Battleground, Cottonbowl & Bronco are the only Nesmith tracks in Texas...Crate 55 is the only tire Battleground has allowed for 3yrs. now, Bronco is going by the same rule...Not saying that's why Cottonbowl did it but it would make sense if that's why they did it...STLMS is a D-55/AR 56 only deal as well so it could also be to keep everyone that wants to run the Nesmith & STLMS from having to buy 2 different type compounds... Kelly Cagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Walker Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Kelly hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybox racing Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Sounds good to me. Kelly, you can buy all my d21 when I go race out of state. Problem solved ! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagle69motorsports Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Ummmmmm NOOOOOOOO!!!! If you can afford to race out of state then you can afford to buy your own D-21's...Lol Kelly Cagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod88s Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 I now have 4 new D21's now for sale if anyone wants them. 512-595-4216 Seems a bit silly to make a rule exception catering to racers who have local tracks in their backyards and arent going to race at cottonbowl anyway except for when their tracks get rained out. jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtworx4me Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Makes sense to me Kelly, I just wanted clarification. If we are all on D-55 I am fine with that. I actually like it because as you stated I won't have to buy 2 different sets of tires to run STLMS and Nesmith. We are planning on running both series in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybox racing Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ummmmmm NOOOOOOOO!!!! If you can afford to race out of state then you can afford to buy your own D-21's...Lol Kelly Cagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toybox racing Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Awe, come on Kelly. You got the big bucks. Lol. Going to run a full schedule with the limited late models for one more year, but plan to hit a few races at cotton bowl next year with new car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagle69motorsports Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Nah man, oilfield is dead right now so I'm broke. One more year is all I'm racing then anything related to me and racing will be few and far between. Still love the sport but it's become a joke and a pain in the keester. Always said when I wasn't having fun anymore then I was walking away, after 16 I'm walking away. Kelly Cagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagle69motorsports Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Tire rule they have decided on makes more sense than being the only track in the entire state that's running 21's then forcing the guy's that want to run the STLMS stuff to have to buy another set. I don't see eye to eye on much but I have to agree with the Crate 55 rule only. Kelly Cagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod88s Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Its kinda like the crates in the modifieds. Its an OPTION, you dont have to run a crate. Should have the option to run 21's or 55's. Nobody is making ya buy 2 sets of tires. Buy the 55's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagle69motorsports Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 We have 3 OPTIONS on engine packages in STLMS and 2 Tire OPTIONS of any D-55 or AR-56...I get what your saying, Kody and I honestly discussed adding the Crate 21 and 1350 (which is the same compound as the Crate 21) to the STLMS for 2016...Kody spoke to some guys, I spoke with some guys and majority wanted to stay with our current tire rule to save on tire expense...Makes no difference to me either way, I always keep 1350's in case I decide to go race out of town... At the end of the day as bad as it pains me to say I think the track made the right call based on the majority around them...I will say this, if Crate 21's were allowed there would be no option to run 55's unless you want to be running in the back getting lapped...Everyone knows what the Crate Option has done to the IMCA Mod class...The CT525 was fixing to do the same thing to USMTS a few years back until Todd choked that OPTION down and made it irrelevant to run anymore... Kelly Cagke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmod97 Posted December 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Battleground, Cottonbowl & Bronco are the only Nesmith tracks in Texas...Crate 55 is the only tire Battleground has allowed for 3yrs. now, Bronco is going by the same rule...Not saying that's why Cottonbowl did it but it would make sense if that's why they did it...STLMS is a D-55/AR 56 only deal as well so it could also be to keep everyone that wants to run the Nesmith & STLMS from having to buy 2 different type compounds... Kelly Cagle We went with D55 because other Texas Nesmith tracks run that tire, and STLMS runs that compound. These tires will last longer on our track. All will be on same tire CRATE 55 only. Jimmy Dearing (CBS Tech) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhardage Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 STLMS runs ANY D-55 compund along with the American Racer MD-56. The "crate 55" fits that rule, but is not the only tire option we have. Just wanted to clear that up for any STLMS guys that may be scratching their heads right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtworx4me Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Thank you Jimmy Dearing for the clarification. Sorry for opening up this can of worms. I am relatively new to this deal and didn't realize that the other Nesmith Tracks in Texas were running the D-55 only. Not that it matters but I agree with this decision made by the track and officials. It will be better for everyone involved in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cagle69motorsports Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 STLMS runs ANY D-55 compund along with the American Racer MD-56. The "crate 55" fits that rule, but is not the only tire option we have. Just wanted to clear that up for any STLMS guys that may be scratching their heads right now. Beaver it's what's for dinner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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