23571race Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 ANY WORD ON A 2016 SEASON? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJack Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 AT THE DRIVERS MEETING THEY SAID THEY WERE CUTTING BACK TO 5 CLASSES AND WOULD RELEASE INFO SOON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 That is a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJack Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 NOT FOR THE 2 CLASSES THAT ARE GETTING CUT. MY QUESS WOULD BE COMBINING SOS CLASSICS AND STREET STOCKS BECAUSE OF LOW CAR COUNT IN BOTH CLASSES, JUST MY OPINION NOTHING OFFICIAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soaker Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Bobby is correct in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 That is a good idea on an 8" tire to combine the classes.Thing is for SOS they can't run a lot of classes with the fan count being what it is.Started out ok with the bump they got from USMTS and the two day ASCS shows.Kinda trailed off from there.I hope SOS can grow , we really need a track between Cotton Bowl and South Texas Speedway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I had a blast running there Saturday night! I am looking forward to running there some more next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texana55 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 I think what BobbyJack (always one of great wisdom) wrote is a good idea as well. I just don't think there is a need to belabor a discussion about the tires. Running 8's and 10's together worked before with good counts and it can work very well again and produce a good class count. Really not worthy of a debate with consideration of trade offs for both classes. Just combine the current classics with current street stocks and allow the trucks to stay with the group so they have a place to race too. The trucks are non controversial and have good drivers too. It is pretty obvious most of them are no slouches (just ask David about getting around that primered truck...lol). The C and C Services, Louise based team will roll with what decisions are rendered by the track ownership and figure out where we fit in. We're just excited to have our car back in our shop and will support the track in 2016 with all of the races we can make as we balance multiple priorities with our business, family and fun. We're just happy to have a place with a friendly atmosphere to race and around a great group of racers with whom we've made many close friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooter48c Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Monty you sliver tongued devil. I too hope for all involved that this will be an easy transition back to one single class that has a nice big car count. I would rather see 10-15 cars racing a good race verses 4-5 cars in two separate classes since they are basically the same class. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJack Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 i think the 8 and 10 inch cars can race together. if after running awhile a small weight penalty could be added if someone dominates the class. maybe the rules could be written for a three year merger into same rules or even to imca rules in three years. don't care about imca sanctioning only same rules nationwide. I talked about this about ten years ago in corpus, if we had started converting then we would already be there. jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtrigg Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 What are your thoughts on moving towards the NeSmith rule package. I think this class will grow very quickly in So TX if we can get tracks aligned with the rules. The tire is almost an in between the 8 and 10's currently used. Â These rules make much more sense than what is currently being utilized. Just my thoughts. Â I do agree that anytime you align the rules with a sanctioning body it provides a greater opportunity for those who desire to travel and for the racers willing to visit our tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 As most of you may know, CBS is going to NeSmith sanctioning next year for SS and LM's. One hugh drawback to the NeSmith SS rules is that they require a stock rear clip that matches the front clip. That means all the Camaros have to have a stock Camaro rear clip instead of the tube rear clips that are on a lot of the Camaro based dirt cars and almost all of the asphalt cars that someone might want to convert to dirt. These rear clips are getting harder and harder to find. It also means an IMCA I-Stock would have to be converted back to 4 link. I've requested a clarification from NeSmith on whether you can leave the tube clip and just add the stock clip to it for extra support. The good thing about NeSmith is that you can run almost any engine plus internal clutch transmissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 as long as they dont go crate mandatory like in the lm's and with our class having no home i think ss is the way we will go in a couple yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Walker Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hray, not true about the clips. Got that cleared up when they were down here. I-stocks are factory four links. The only change would be the lower trailing arms would need to be raised. The brackets could remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Wayne, What did they say about the Camaro clipped cars? Can they run a tube rear clip but with leaf springs (same spacing as stock)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Walker Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 After several e-mails and conversations, it is ok. They had to see them first. The cameros and novas can run a tube rear clip AS LONG as it's in the OEM location and the front leaf spring mounts are in the correct location. They were concerned that the pld pavement cars would be the extreme offset frames like a SLM. Offset frames are not legal but offset cages are. The sport mod/street stocks would need to replace the round tube, rear sections with square. Their concern is the strength versus the weight of the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Thanks. In case the LLM's can't find a place to race next year the NeSmith SS series seems to be a class that most of the cars could be converted to. Our engines and transmissions are legal and most chassis' could convert to leaf spring and Ford 9" if they are not already 9". As I see it, the hardest conversion will be firewalls and floor pans. Some LLM's have W5 hubs and fabricated spindles, so those will have to be changed to stock. Some work, but not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 counts mine out. looks like i need to build a whole new car...never built one from the ground up. should be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latemodel82 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 as long as they dont go crate mandatory like in the lm's and with our class having no home i think ss is the way we will go in a couple yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latemodel82 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 The late models are not crate mandatory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS08 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 But will they be 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latemodel82 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 But will they be 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latemodel82 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Walker Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 With nesmith late models, the crates are mandatory. Not in the street stocks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS08 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 So what rules will the south Texas late model series be running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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