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Here are some rules exceptions for the Dwarf/Modlite class. These will help keep the class cost down and make for a competitive class.

 

1. Hoosier BOZZ tread design medium tire only

 

2. Race gas or pump gas only. No E85 or alcohol.

 

3. No shock claim rule.

 

4. Solid links only. No biscuits or torsion bars.

 

5. Modlites must weigh a minimum of 1300lbs with driver after race.

 

6. Classics can run spring bars and be a minimum weight of 1240lbs with driver after the race

 

Thank

 

Keith

 

 

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Top shelf yes it would drop the horse power by about 25 horsepower which in these motors is about a fifth the horsepower. But on the other hand no because with a stock motor and right set up you can still be faster than most cars are at sos. And as I have said from the beginning dwarfs are not the same as mod lites. Aero is better and more travel gives mods the advantage.

 

As for a grace period why do you need one. There was no grace period on buying a mod. There was no grace period on building a motor. So why is it needed to go back to stock at sos only one or two cars are not stock now. So just my opinion but none needed.

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Either car can have a built motor, dwarf or modlite. It is legal for both cars. And as for aerodynamics, we arent doing 200 mph in these things therefore there is no proven fact that modlites are more aerodynamic. The main reason for the switch to the modlite body style was to be more appealling to the fans and have a " new school" look. When we first went to modlites either body style would win any given race. It just looks like modlites always do good because a majority of drivers in Texas have gone to a modlite body

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We tried the built motor program last year and got 9 or 10 nights out of an engine, needless to say, we won't be doing that anymore. As far as the two cars being worlds apart, that is not the case, with a 60 pound weight break and running spring bars a classic set up the same as a modlite would be just as fast. One thing the modlites done was allowed a bigger person to drive safely and comfortably over the smaller inside of the classic... However, there are some newer classics out now with much more interior space...

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First if aerodynamic s only help at 200 mph then ill drive you in my pickup 65 mph down the freeway and let you stand up with a piece of plywood and we can see how that goes. Second if you dont have a built engine then why a grace period who has a built motor. Third I have both cars and yes I can win in both but my mod is faster with same setup. Fourth neither of my cars will get to 1240 so weight break is a mute point. Fifth since you brought it up I think there areote dwarfs in texas. Look at houston car counts dwarfs average 16 mods average 11 even with 11 1000 to win races.

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Didn't mean to start a war between classic vs modlite, I don't know enough about them was just curious and it just seems the modlite are quicker generally speaking. I'm 6'3" around 250 so yeah room would be an issue if I decide to take on one of these cars later on down the road, but I like both of them as a fan, just wish more would show up when you run.

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Rear suspension has more travel is one difference and this has been an isue ftom when mods were voted in between us you keep adding more and more money and less and less show up. Odviously the class started a down ward spiral since mods so maybe that should be your proof.

 

Or maybe me voicing my opinion over and over did that like some have said. You decide but two clubs gone since then.

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Stock those are loose terms with that engine. And never said a dwarf cant win I know I can win at sos in mine but also know my mod is faster. I thought question was if there was an advantage to mods not if a dwarf could beat a mod maybe I should read better.

 

Just so everyone knows the truth about stock motors. I had one built to stock rules in texas and it cost 3000 and gained 25 hp so you saying stock says nothing. When I argued about the aftermarket intakes you can look and everyone said there was no advantage to them which is odd considering that I have dyno sheets to show rhat my motor gained 8-12 hp from2500-10500 and only lost 2 hp @top end over that. So I guess the dyno lied not all the drivers that put them on and said there was no gain. Like I have said from beginning if you cant set your car up right to start with then that extra power wont help but if you can than it will.

 

So basically you are making a bigger gap between fast cars and slow cars. And out pricing half the cars so they park them.

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DCRST cars have so many disadvantages, in order to stay legal with DCRST. If we drop that series sure we could make changes that would help. IE computer, after market air, aluminium hubs, Quick-change rear ends, and many more all illegal at DCRST

 

But I just want to point out the weight advantage they just gave us is no help at all, because we are all over 1300 pounds. (which is the rule for DCRST) Not that anyone one would know, cause I haven't seen any car weighed all season.

 

For me this is my rookie season I'm just trying to learn to drive and set my car up. so it doesn't matter yet. But I can tell you most of the other DCRST cars wont come, because the lites are to quick.

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Just a thought but in 2016 maybe sos should ask there drivers collectively what direction they want the rules to be. Not sure who makes rules now oe if anyone does. I know I have never been asked. But considering we are following rules that have ran our class in the ground in Houston and edna maybe that is not the direction we should go.

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