Chevy35 Posted August 17, 2014 Report Share Posted August 17, 2014 there has been a lot of talk about running 10" tires giving big advantages. Its in the rules and anyone can run them, put on a set of 72cc heads, 15" vacuum cam, and change to roller tip rockers. What I've been hearing no one wants to run them because they are so expensive. I have noticed after racers that 8" tires have been blistered and wore out. I have five wins in seven races this year on the same right rear tire. It is now time to change the tire so you do the math and see how it adds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 If theres been a lot of talk then they are talking to the wrong people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 vacuume cam shafts are a lot of money.thats why imca got rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevy35 Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 168 for cam an lifters don't seem like a lot to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin34 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Everyone should be on the same tire. Plain and simple. Hopefully it changes next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR81 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Well if they have to force everyone to run the same tire because of all the wine ass crying they will loose the ones running them now because that's just plain bs to think certain people are winning because the tires. Maybe they are just a better driver and the others are just jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I thought the rules were working pretty good. If you think you can't afford to change the engine to meet the 10" rules, think how much you'll save by buying asphalt pulloffs and grooving them instead of buying new tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaerRacing00 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I never understood why people would want to put that big motor on those little tires...thats just me...but yes to me Danielsen has done a great job leveling the playing field...and they always say if you can't beat them join them!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 You know, I never realized what size tires you guys were running. STS has been a pretty rough track this season so my question would be how are tires holding up at the other Shootout tracks since I've only seen one in Goliad and those flats were from accidents or debris that I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthTexasSpeedway Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Just to point one thing out. Due to the fact that we allowed cars to come from out of town on 10" tires the car count was enough to pay each of you the full purse. When we have had only local drivers the car counts have been lower and we could not pay the full purse. So It meant more money for each of you. Â Ken Hobbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Lots of good points. Here is another one. Of the 5 races this year (2) have been won with big tires. (1) of which was Tony at Race #5. He is fast absolutely but this hasnt happened over night Tony has been fast for 5 years or more. I was running $500 grudge races with him 5 years ago. The best part of this past weekend is Steven Whitaker proved in their heat race that G60 small tire car can run as good or better then the big tire car which should of had a small advantage on a tacky track. Wade and Rob were the talk early this year and now its Tony. Sounds to me those making noise needs to be doing more home work and less talking. I didnt see many people saying much early when Tony couldnt hit his ass with a paddle. His hard work is paying off, good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones41 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Tonys got a point in the first few laps at sts my tires were gone, at the end of the night both rr and lr was basically ripped to shreds. we've been talking about switching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ks2290 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Ive ran both and own cars with both i know in 4 races ive burned through two rr on the small tires and after the same im still running the tires that were on the car when i got it from tony that he ran a few races, both tires have pros and cons so i think it should be left the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuskhunter Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Regarding G60's tires that were on my car in the Heat race at STS they were the same tires I Had on it at Cotton Bowl, every tire on the car except the right rear had three races on them. I put a new tire on the right rear because I had one and thought it might help me in the feature at Cotton Bowl. I've learned after looking at my tires from the Heat race, that tire wear has more to do with throttle control than the track condition. JMO Steven W. drove my car harder than I ever could in the heat yet showed very little tire wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthTexasSpeedway Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Another thing to note in general: Tire wear in any class has a lot to do with the air pressure you put in it. By adjusting air pressure your tires may last longer. Â Ken Hobbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones41 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Pressure is on to match his results Brian lol. Yeah we usually bumped it up a lot on harder tracks. Another issue is I tend to get carried away with my Groover and sypher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuskhunter Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Yes the pressure is on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 big tires..big motors...move to LLM....LMAO..just saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevy35 Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 little motor big tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb1 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 i think the term "little motor " is miss leading . Little motors are capable of making the same power as the "big motors " . NO difference in cubic inches . Same size motors . No less power with vacuum rule or heads . Possibly more , if you know what ur doing . Weak link is the rocker arms . Historically speaking , the 8 " tires have done well . Last 4 STXSSS championships on 8 " tires . i also feel that 10 " tires might be leading the points this year if it were not for dnf "s . i / e Possibly broken rocker arms . Same Horse Power motor , 10" or 8" tires . Choose your medicine . Choices are available . To this point here JMO . Stephan has made great strides in the effort of getting the tracks, that are left, on the same rules . These things dont necessarily happen over night . The differences here in motors and tires are left overs of an on going effort to help consolidate the rules of our local tracks . Only a couple of years ago look where the street stock class was . Low car counts everywhere . Efforts are still being made to bring us even closer together . I appreciate our tracks cooperation in this effort . I, also, wish we were all on the same tire & I feel the 8" tires are more popular and readily available . One thing for sure that you cant argue with is the fact that the strides that have been made in the recent past have been a boost to Street Stock Racing in general . I feel it will continue to improve . If the 10" tires become too dominate in the future im sure it will be looked at . One thing we can look foward to is the fact that Tony is getting older every day . Maybe one day in the future , if I get my ducks in a row , I can get a little of that blue paint on my right door . The last reality check I did , this is a hobby that I do for fun ! If any of us make it big we might make into the Corpus Christi Racing Hall of Fame , if it ever gets opened . Chuck B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Thanks Chuck, I appreciate everything you said right on the money. Over 4 1/2 years we have had a total of (21) Shootout races (3) of which have been won by a car on 10" wheels only (3). The top 20 in points has (3) big tires drivers in it. 5th, 12th and 14th respectively. The car Tony is driving has won (2) of the (3) one with Tony driving and Bo Beckner as the other. The only other driver to win on big tires was this year #49 Ryan Slott. Not to take away from his achievement but on that night we did have a multicar pileup that included major damage to 48r, 41, 149, 11, t9, 118 and I am sure others I am leaving out but those are the bulk of the fastest 8 inch drivers that raced that night. Both big tire wins this year was also won from the front row. Neither driver drove through the pack passing any fast cars to pull their wins out like has been done by several 8 inch drivers including this year. Winning in this series is a big deal. Its done against the best the area has to offer so its an accomplishment be it on 8 or 10 inch. Everyone knows there is advantages and disadvantages to both. Nobody knows for sure whats best right now, whats wrong with that? You have yet another option. Fans nor I want this to be the Rob and Wade show. They are fantastic drivers but its a welcome relief to see others stepping up and challenging them. You can race on 8's, you can race on 10's or you have the option of not racing at all. Now everyone knows Steve Whitaker is the areas best shoe bar none. He jumped into an 8 inch car and put it on the 35 car with his 10 inch wheels and most likely would have in the feature as well. Tony will argue but the fact is he would have and nothing would have stopped him from doing it. So in my mind there is no arguement at this point in time because its a proven fact and now history we can learn from. Given a couple weeks Whitaker would be even faster. So folks he has proven the 8 inch cars can go faster. I am one of those that needs to figure out a way to get faster. Here is yet the biggest point of the drivers that have issues with the 10 inch tires I wont call you out but your getting beat by 8 inch tires cars as well! Good luck hope to see a new winner in Corpus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR81 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 The term little motor is my not be proper as to some of you but if you knew what was in that motor you crap your pants. That motor was built three years ago when the rules were very limited, it has nothing compared to what is allowed now. So say what you'd like to but the shoe that pushes the pedal to make the motor go is a damn good one. If he had small tires like the rest then everyone would find something else to complain about. I say go race and have fun, if you wanna complain about something or someone maybe first you should stop and think what could you do to make your car better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cperry115 Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I was gonna say something smartass about 10" vs. 8" but I see the comedian87 and poorboy are watching this closely so i'll leave it to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 It is amazing to me that STXSSS worked very hard to make the rules so that many drivers could race without having to build new cars to compete.The result has been car counts almost doubling and new cars being built in a class that was pretty much on life support.And yet I guess it still isn't enough.I've seen a 100% asphalt car win a big race because he has the talent to not overdrive a car.The 35 ,48 and 41 cars win because they have the drivers ,crews and backing, all the things you need to be successful.Can't blame them for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Like anything good or bad we have reached a crossroad. Success has gotten us there and with the interests of alot of good veterian drivers coming into the series we have all eyes on every move that is made. Everyone will have to keep in mind the tracks and their best interests. No matter what if they are not onboard then nothing will work. Right now we have great car counts, sponsors and interests. All that is good! We have very little negativity following us or part of the shootout. As we play out the rest of the season just know we are and have been working on ideas and cleaning up gray areas as requested for 2015. Not everyone will like 2015 as its impossible to satisfy everyone but we will do our best to direct the series, continue teaming up with tracks and its rules to support the continued growth. So with all that said hang loose until we work out all the details that effect our offseason and 2015. If you are spending money now you are investing in 2014 but no guarantees if that investment will be good for 2015. Thanks for all the interests and comments as its great to see your passion but lets make sure we dont turn passion into drama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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