HiTech Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 arob no argument from me with choosing those other classes and what dan has done with em he picked some great folks to race . ...i just think it is a golden opportunity to get cars from other tracks who want to race with the bombers but do not fit the rules to a T. if the track runs the rules the class has now that would not help in bringing others ..tires would be the only rule i see needs inforced .if you dont throw those other cars a line they wont bite .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Very true and agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Don't think a Bomber car count will be an issue despite the rules. From what I could tell CTS has a 7" wheel width vs 8" for CCS or STS. I may have read wrong though. CCS and CTS had transponders last year anyways but not sure if the STS guys use them or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railer Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 7" wheel is allowed , so 7 or 8 can be ran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutlawB84 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 No transponders on dirt.....so they would have to buy or rent if the track still has some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I'm just not sure the difference between the 7" vs 8" and CTS only allows 7" from what I can tell so if an 8" is an advantage hope it wouldn't discourage a visitor. Other than that I think the rules are similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railer Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 No reread that rule,,,, that 7" is allowed ,,so if you only have 7" wheels you can run them , not that CTS,,,,, only ,,,,,, allows 7" rims -wheels,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 It was about 3 am when I read it lol. Just thought most of the Bomber/Grand Stocks were using 8" tires/wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcCain8 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Gotta ask.How do CCS rules match up to CTS and STS? I agree with Hi-Tech just let them run to the rules of their home track.It is only for 1 to 4 races that way no one has to spend $$$ to race.Any advantage in rules to CCS's could be adjusted by adding weight.Off the top of my headCCS has 16 inch vacuum rule STS has 15 inch vacuum rule CCS stock springs only STS allows racing springs I believe CTS changed up rules this year and are now allowing locked rear ends by welding spider gears or mini spool. Only suspension mod I believe is Camber adjustment by factory shimming only Not sure on any other differences though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 That isn't too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatKam10 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Any word on the SS rules or if they are even racing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railer Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Matt I think that SS are OUT of the picture , We are like the misfit toys at misfit Island .Once the SS was the premiere class at CC ,well you know. Easiest way to kill them don't run them ...... Douglas LeStourgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutlawB84 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Was told SS was a no go.......only Bombers for the first night if we get the car count. If the first night goes well, I'm sure the Bombers will be invited back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowrench Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Well then I guess ill be debating on selling my ss Devin Adkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldracer Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 We used to start 20 + bombers was the best racing always good show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatKam10 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Well that sucks. The only reason no supers showed up was because the difference of the rules at each track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 oldracer yep and my wife and joshua's mom scored for all those years and were driven crazy anytime the car count was over 22 ..with what i suggest for the loose rules for four races i bet the count would be over that ..that should be a no brainer .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railer Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Sorry matt , but so true ,,Time to sell out I have 2 SS for sale Plus 6 years of parts. We were talking about the street outlaws , farm truck deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallywally43 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Well I suppose I might as well put my two cents in , since my name has been put on a list without my knowing! As we all know Dan owns my car and allows me to drive it from time to time, and with that said YES I will be at any race we have for the bombers... If they don't run, then I don't race so we all see where I stand... If we aren't running bombers, you can bet I will be at the track helping out however I can , trying and hoping this 4 race season blooms into a full season in the future. Its a real shame that this track has come to this position, and Its a real shame that Dan has come to feel the way does about a track and sport that he obviously loves. I see some good posts on here and some that could go without saying, but this is a free country and we have the right of freedom of speech. Anyways I'm done rambling and only want to say one more thing, Hopefully we all can pull together and save this track that obviously has a great history and a great following..... By the way, My name is Joe Martin #24 bomber, "wally" just so there isn't any confusion......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railer Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Sorry Nathan that you bought a car that you cant drive here ,Wow how you must feel ,what a deal you got,, only if you knew . Like I said I feel for you. Douglas LeStourgeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runninfords Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Gotta ask.How do CCS rules match up to CTS and STS? I agree with Hi-Tech just let them run to the rules of their home track.It is only for 1 to 4 races that way no one has to spend $$$ to race.Any advantage in rules to CCS's could be adjusted by adding weight.Off the top of my headCCS has 16 inch vacuum rule STS has 15 inch vacuum rule CCS stock springs only STS allows racing springs I believe CTS changed up rules this year and are now allowing locked rear ends by welding spider gears or mini spool. Only suspension mod I believe is Camber adjustment by factory shimming only Not sure on any other differences though STS has weight rule CCS does not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Whoa! That post won't be up long! Every promoter/owner makes mistakes it comes with the job.Bottom line is he opened the track when no one else would.Ran it several years with 25 cars total in the pits most nights.As good as Abel was even he couldn't get the car counts up and when he put together a big show 5 or 6 cars show with the exception of TALMS.Now Dan wants to be part of his sons racing and sees the opportunity going away because there are only two asphalt tracks left to race on so he better go now or start thinking racing dirt.Whatever the reasons if CCS is to survive some bridges need to be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCloser Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 We are working on making it better. I can almost guarantee you'll see more cars per class in 2014 than you've seen in the passed 5 years. We have started to work together with scheduling with STS and that will help tremendously. That way racers and race fans won't have to choose. So please support your local tracks when they are running. I know I'll be at STS when I'm not racing elsewhere. CC Speedway will always be home for me. Dan has given us a great opportunity to save CC Speedway. Lets not screw this up by running mouths on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHolt Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I do my best to keep things positive around here, but every now and then someone has to get up on a soapbox and blast away at a track or promoter. I am not here to judge whether the rant is 100% or 100% wrong. Rants against Texas short tracks and Texas short track promoters are not permitted in the forums. That doesn't mean that reasonable discussions about topics of interest are edited or removed. They are not. In fact, until someone felt the need to launch an attack, this thread had a lot of valid points brought up and some positive moments as well. That being said, I have deleted several posts made over the past few minutes. Hopefully, things can get back on a more positive wavelength soon. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top_shelf_12 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Man I must have missed some soap opera stuff. Again, I want to thank Dan and EVERYONE at CCS for doing what they can. The drivers that did show up every night possible and the ones committing to it. I'm glad to see Owen help with scheduling and hope drivers show up from both tracks to support the four shows. Dan, I will be there your four nights open this season and truly hope it's something to build on for the future. Jon Hutchinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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