TheCloser Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 In the 2014 TALMS Series these changes will be made. 1. The Red AMB Transponder will be used at all tracks except for Altus Speedway. Please purchase one before the beginning of the year. 2. A small left side peep mirror is allowed. But no large rear view mirror. 3. A one way scanner or raciever will be required at all events. This helps with lineups after cautions. Please purchase one before the season starts. 4. NO TWO WAY RADIOS/SPOTTER & SCANNERS ALLOWED! If you are caught using a spotter you will be automatically disqualified from the race receiving no points or money. More rule additions to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Walker Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 I really like number 4. More classes need to go back to that and let the driver drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 This is what I got for the dwarf cars. Not a bad price. http://ped-products.com/index.php?dispatch...;product_id=170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termite#99 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 What's the purpose of the left side mirror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJack Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 on dirt we don't get mirrors or spotters. don't worry about whats behind you just go. jmo BOBBY JACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASPEEDRACER24 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Having driven with a mirror and without. I sometimes felt the mirror was a crutch especially when I started. When I went to dirt and took off the mirror I was worried less about what was behind me and was more aware of what was in front and both sides and could 'feel' when someone was on the outside or inside of me if they were not in view by listening for them. Ever since I have not used a mirror. Its interesting tho because its definately a dirt vs. asphalt deal just about everyone on asphalt it seems wants a mirror and most dirt racers that I know would rather race without one no matter the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 on dirt we don't get mirrors or spotters. don't worry about whats behind you just go. jmo BOBBY JACK so just drive down there and all is ok.i don't use my miiror to block.just don't want to cut anyone off.ohwelland colts spotter should have been saying inside,inside,inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arob Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 From the stands it looks like dirt is more forgiving too. I would think the worst kind of driver,especially on asphalt,is the mirror driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt15 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Walker Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 When I started racing, on asphalt, we did not use mirrors. They were not allowed. It's not a dirt vs. asphalt thing. Drivers tend to learn whats around them better without mirrors. They also learn to set up passes knowing the car in front of them cannot see them until you're at the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termite#99 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 on dirt we don't get mirrors or spotters. don't worry about whats behind you just go. jmo BOBBY JACK On asphalt we aren't sideways to be able to see out of the right side window. It's not about what's behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyJack Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 DESPITE WHAT SOMEONE MAY HAVE TOLD YOU WE ARE NOT SIDEWAYS ON DIRT AS MUCH AS YOU THINK. IF THE GUY BEHIND YOU KNOWS YOU DONT HAVE A MIRROR HE IS NOT CLEAR TILL HE IS UP BESIDE YOU, NOT JUST AT YOUR LEFT REAR QUARTER PANEL. ONCE AGAIN JMO, NOT TRYING TO START A BATTLE JUST A LITTLE BORED WITH ACTIVITY ON WEB, I DONT DO FACEBOOK OR TWITTER. BOBBY JACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiTech Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 i use a mirror when i get on the track and off .or use it to make sure i cleared someone .other than that i dont use it .those who race by the mirror dont realize if they looked forward more often they will run faster .plus if i see eyes looking at me more than they should i usually help them look forward coming into the next turn ......that always seems to work lol. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3Motorsports Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Now I know what all these Houston drivers are doing on the 610 loop, mirror driving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielsen Motorsports Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Honestly I cant see a mirror being useful on most dirt tracks anyways. Not the smoothest of surfaces to utilize a mirror and like Bobby said if your the least bit sideways your not fast asphalt or dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer61 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 For what its worth, driver A should be able to drive his (or her) line without a mirror or radio. driver B should be able to get up along side far enough that driver A can see they are there and act accordingly. if driver B can NOT accomplish this then they should be patient and work on their car during the week to make it better for the next race. THAT is racing. Not this win at all cost mentality that seems to show up when the half way flags are out. If you believe the above mentioned is not possible, then you have not raced at these same Texas track 20 years ago. We had better racing and A LOT less wrecks. Cory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 For what its worth, driver A should be able to drive his (or her) line without a mirror or radio. driver B should be able to get up along side far enough that driver A can see they are there and act accordingly. if driver B can NOT accomplish this then they should be patient and work on their car during the week to make it better for the next race. THAT is racing. Not this win at all cost mentality that seems to show up when the half way flags are out. If you believe the above mentioned is not possible, then you have not raced at these same Texas track 20 years ago. We had better racing and A LOT less wrecks. Cory "LIKE" .....not just Texas either Cory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hray Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 .............driver B should be able to get up along side far enough that driver A can see they are there and act accordingly. ................. Cory Like also. Unfortunately, most driver A's seem to think "act accordingly" means take out driver B, or driver B's think it's OK to bump the rear quarter of driver A if he doesn't quite have enough to make the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 This seems to be pretty much a moot argument. The rules state a mirror is allowed , not required[b/]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.j.&s.racing Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I just want to race, win some, have some fun and not have to put a new body on it after every race.but the tracks need to keep rough driving in check.like they do in kyle on the scanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Walker Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Agree 100% with what Cory said. FWIW, at Slinger Super Speedway, any driver not holding his line is black flagged. For those that have never been there or heard of it. Slinger is a 1/4 HIGH banked asphalt track where the SLMs turn 11.25 second laps. They have 2 wide racing every night. It is an awsome place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer61 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Agree 100% with what Cory said. FWIW, at Slinger Super Speedway, any driver not holding his line is black flagged. For those that have never been there or heard of it. Slinger is a 1/4 HIGH banked asphalt track where the SLMs turn 11.25 second laps. They have 2 wide racing every night. It is an awsome place. Been there a few times in the late 90's with Bickle. Crazy fast track. Sorry Cody for high jacking your thread. I think the TALMS series is on its way up. Great racing and great car counts. Im sure a few rules tweeks wont stop the progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASPEEDRACER24 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Agree 100% with what Cory said. FWIW, at Slinger Super Speedway, any driver not holding his line is black flagged. For those that have never been there or heard of it. Slinger is a 1/4 HIGH banked asphalt track where the SLMs turn 11.25 second laps. They have 2 wide racing every night. It is an awsome place. If I remember correctly the flagman holds up a little sign while pointing the black flag. Sign I thought says 1 Line... Saw a 100 Lap SLM race there last year and had a blast. I think they ran something like 60 laps door to door and I think there was only I bad caution. Rest were just guys that spun on their own... Awesome track... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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