2014 Rule Package for South Texas Street Stock Shootout Series

[Danielsen Motorsports]

2014 South Texas Street Stock Shootout Rule Package

 

#1. Weight Rule - 3100 lb. min. w / driver and 107.5 inch wheel base min. Refer to Allowances below for any possible weight penalties that will be added to the initial 3100 lb base.

 

#2. Chassis Rules for Front - Must run stock clip, stock style steering box, tie rods, centerlink, lower control arms must be in stock position, upper control arm mounts can be relocated and can be made of strap steel. IMCA style upper arms ok. No aluminum shocks allowed. Weight jacks allowed. Any steel racing spring or balljoint. No tubular front clips allowed. Quick Steering is allowed. Refer to Allowances for shock options.

 

#2a. Front Shock Rules - The following shocks are the only shocks allowed with no weight penalty. Afco K Series, Doetsch Tech Stock Shocks, Pro SS Stock Shocks, QA1 EC Series. Shocks must be stock mounted to not include a weight penalty. No aluminum shocks, no shock that requires a reservoir, no adjustable shocks. If you run any other type of racing shock Refer to Allowances.

 

#3. Chassis Rules for Rear - Any factory rear end is allowed including floaters. Aftermarket trailing arm brackets are allowed however you must use the factory lower trailing arms and length. Front and rear weight jacks are legal. Coil spring cars must retain factory frame to the rear end housing and retail stock location of lower trialing arm chassis mount. Tubular rear clips will be allowed but will carry a weight penalty, Refer to Allowances. Leaf spring cars must retain the factory location of the front leaf spring mount including the chassis mount height. Front leaf spring mount location has a tolerance of .5 inches from factory location on both left and right locations. Front leaf spring mount can only have one bolt hole no multihole brackets on front mount. No Chrysler leaf springs. Adjustable shackles and weight jacks allowed on rear leaf spring mount. Any steel stock mount non adjustable non rebuildable racing shock. Refer to Allowances for 3 link option. 3a. Rear Shock Rules - The following shocks are the only shocks allowed with no weight penalty. Afco K Series, Doetsch Tech Stock Shocks, Pro SS Stock Shocks, QA1 EC Series. Shocks must be stock mounted to not include a weight penalty. No aluminum shocks, any shock that requires a reservoir, No adjustable shocks. If you run any other type of racing shock Refer to Allowances.

 

#4. Driveline - Automatics must have a working fwd and reverse gear. 10 inch min. working coverter. Manuals must have a steel scatter shield. 10.5 inch clutch min. No mini clutches allowed. No traction control of any type. Only factory standard transmissions allowed. Listed below are legal transmissions and the legal gears. Must paint driveshaft white.

 

Stock Transmission Gear Ratios

 

- Saginsaw 3 Speed 1st 2nd 3rd 0 line 2.85 1.68 1.OO 1 line 2.54 1.5O 1.OO 2 lines 3.11 1.84 1.OO 3 lines 3.5 1.89 1.OO

- Borg Warner T-16 1st 2nd 3rd 2.86 1.72 1.00

- Saginsaw 4 Speed 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 0 line 2.84 2.01 1.35 1.OO 1 line 2.54 1.8O 1.44 1.OO 2 lines 3.11 2.2O 1.47 1.OO 3 lines 3.5 2.47 1.65 1.OO

- Municie 4 Speed 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 0 line 2.56 1.91 1.48 1.OO 1 line 2.2O 1.64 1.28 1.OO 2 lines 2.52 1.88 1.46 1.OO T-10

- Super T-10 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 0 line 2.43 1.61 1.23 1.OO 1 line 2.64 1.75 1.33 1.OO 2 line 3.42 2.28 1.46 1.OO 3 line 2.88 1.91 1.33 1.OO

 

#5. Brakes - Disc brakes are allowed. Min. of (3) working brakes. Proportioning valves allowed but not within drivers reach while driving. Rotors must be steel and cannot have any type of cooling hole. Aftermarket pedals legal, dual master cylinders legal.

 

#6. Appearance - Car must have a factory recognizable appearance. Stock, remanufactored and homebuilt steel or aluminum body panels. Truck, El Camino, Cadillac’s, Station wagons, any full size car from factory is legal. No compact bodies. Rear spoiler on deck lid to be no taller then 6 inches, no longer then 12 inches on the sideboards. Can not exceed width of car. Driver cockpit can be enclosed. Car appearance will be heavily scrutinized. Refer to Allowances for stock bodied cars.

 

#7. Tire and Motor Packages - You must declare what package you are running "A" or "B".

 

Package A - No roller cams. Must pull 15 inches of vacuum at 1000 rpm or .480 max. lift at rocker arm. Any cast iron head 72cc minimum No porting, polishing or gasket matching. Roller tip rockers are allowed, no full roller rockers. Holley 4412 carb only. Must meet factory specs. If you run a stock intake you are allowed to run an unaltered GM quadrajet carb. No carb spacers allowed only a 1 inch adapter. Flat top pistons only, must use steel connecting rods, crankshafts can be steel but must be stock stroke. 362 cubic inch max. IF YOU RUN PACKAGE "A" YOU'RE ALLOWED TO RUN 8 OR 10 INCH WIDE WHEELS. YOU CAN RUN ANY DIRT BOSS, ASPHALT TAKEOFF OR G60 TIRE. NOTE: IF YOU RUN A QJET CARB YOU MUST RUN ON 8 INCH WHEELS WITH G60 TIRE OR ASPHALT TAKEOFFS.

 

Package B - No roller cams. Any stock OEM cast iron cylinder head with a min. of 62 cc chamber, must be straight plug. Any aftermarket cast iron cylinder head with a min. of 72 cc chamber. .550 max cam lift. Holley 4412 with factory specs only. No carb spacers allowed only a 1 inch adapter. Flat top pistons only, must use steel connecting rods, crankshafts can be steel but must be stock stroke. Full Roller Rockers are allowed. 362 cubic inch max. IF YOU RUN PACKAGE "B" YOU CAN ONLY RUN 8 INCH WHEELS. YOU CAN RUN ONLY G60 TIRES OR ASPHALT PULLOFFS.

 

NOTE: You can NOT combine or blend Package "A" and "B". Refer to ALLOWANCES regarding intake manifold options. EXAMPLE: If you run 10" wheel w/ dirt boss you can not run roller rockers nor run an OEM factory head less then 72 cc. However you can use anything listed on the ALLOWANCES and take on the allocated weight penalty.

 

#8. Wheels and Tires - (1) beadlock is allowed on RR only. Tires maybe Sipped and Grooved. No softening or soaking allowed. For legal tires look at Tire and Motor Package section.

 

#9. Ignition and Battery - Only (1) 12 - Volt battery may be used. Any HEI style distributor is allowed. MSD ignition boxes are allowed. No traction control devises of any type. Must have battery kill switch.

 

#10. Intake and Carb. - Legal intake manifolds, Weiand part #GM 7547, 7547-1, Edlebrock #2701, or GM Stock non Marine cast iron intake. If you run a stock Q-Jet carb you must run a stock cast iron intake. Refer to ALLOWANCES for intake options.

 

#11. Misc. -

 

- Motor setback is #1 spark plug even with upper ball joint.

- No Alcohol or fuel additive, pump or racing gas only.

- No electric fuel pumps.

 

ALLOWANCES - can be used on any shootout car

 

* 50 lb. weight penalty for 3 link rear suspension cars. 3 links no traction control device (spring or biscuit) and solid top link no longer than 36 inches. Pan hard bars may not be shorter than 26 inches and must be solid.

* 50 lb. weight penalty for tubular rear leaf suspension cars.

* 50 lb. weight penalty for using any shock that is not listed in the general shock rules. Any steel rebuildable shock, any steel relocated shock, any steel Billstein shock.

* 50 lb. weight penalty for using any high rise aluminum intake or marine manifold.

* 25 lb. weight penalty for any car w a non stock firewall or partial removed floor pan.

* 50 lb. weight break for all stock panel bodied cars including hood, trunk and roof. Example: Removing back seat fire wall and floor is legal if car is enclosed. If any part of the firewall or front seat floor is removed you will receive a 25 lb. weight penalty.

* 40 lb. weight penalty for any car using Vortec heads. Weight must be mounted in front of firewall.

 

You are responsible for the min. weight of your car depending on what additional allowances are on your car. All cars start at 3100 lbs. w driver. Add your weight penalties up and together you will have the total weight you must be after the race. Example: if you run a 3 link car w/ rebuildable shocks, high rise intake manifold, sheet metal body, w/ only a portion of a firewall then your weight penalties will add up to 200 lbs. Base Weight Rule 3100 lbs. + 200 lbs. in allowances = 3300 lbs. is your new min. weight.

 

We reserve the right to eliminate any gray area rule that is exposed by a competitor at any time. Ask before you do it could save you alot of time and money.

 

2014 rule package should allow drivers some flexibility. It levels the playing field for those that don't want to upgrade or run certain parts vs the driver's that do. We believe this will make for a much easier way of teching cars prior and after races.

 

We hope our effort pays off for everyone involved in the series as we strive to making the shootout bigger and better every year! Rules are out early this year for your benefit. We will continue to review any neccessary rule adjustments to make the best possible rule package for all involved.

[03Eracer]

i thought the shootout was a run your track rules deal. this rule package looks like you would have to build it to race the shootout and only the shootout?

[Danielsen Motorsports]

i thought the shootout was a run your track rules deal. this rule package looks like you would have to build it to race the shootout and only the shootout?

 

What track do you currently race at and then I can properly answer your question.

[BobbyJack]

looks good, I like the no mini clutch and I think no 6 inch rods.

BOBBY JACK

[Danielsen Motorsports]

There is alot of rules I would like to have but one thing for sure you cant have is a rule you can not enforce. It serves no purpose to have a rule that some can get away with only because its not cost effective to enforce it. I have run both sizes and there is pros and cons with both but performance I cant say I really notice anything between the two sizes when turning less the 7000.

[03Eracer]

There is alot of rules I would like to have but one thing for sure you cant have is a rule you can not enforce. It serves no purpose to have a rule that some can get away with only because its not cost effective to enforce it. I have run both sizes and there is pros and cons with both but performance I cant say I really notice anything between the two sizes when turning less the 7000.

i run cotton bowl speedway

[Danielsen Motorsports]

There is alot of rules I would like to have but one thing for sure you cant have is a rule you can not enforce. It serves no purpose to have a rule that some can get away with only because its not cost effective to enforce it. I have run both sizes and there is pros and cons with both but performance I cant say I really notice anything between the two sizes when turning less the 7000.

i run cotton bowl speedway

 

Ok perfect the current rules at CBS allow any car to run the 2014 rules with two exceptions. We are getting away from mini clutches and we are trying to have a new standard on body rules. Thats it. Other then those two rules everything that is allowed in the shootout is already allowed at CBS. Now CBS obviously can change any rule they feel neccessary to but they also reserve the right to adopt the shootout rules as their own for 2014 like South Texas Speedway has. Either way you should be in great shape. If you still have a concern about a particular rule please let me know.

[soaker]

Who runs under 7000k ??? Hell our engines just get warmed up at 8. Lmao

[Danielsen Motorsports]

Revision for leaf spring type cars is updated.

[jgeorge11]

What about the victor jr intake cotton bowl allows is that still going to be allowed

 

Stephan: It is allowed in our shootout races, It is considered an "Allowance Part" which that means anyone who wants to run any highrise intake will have run an additional 50 lbs. Keep in mind our weight rule min. is 3100 for next year. So if this is the only Allowance Part you have you must weight a min. of 3150. Hope this helps you out. Please let me know.

[jgeorge11]

Also it says gas only so do that mean no race fuel

 

Stephan: Gas only means no alcohol allowed, racing gas is legal.

[dancer52]

"No roller cams. Must pull 15 lbs. of vacuum at 1000 rpm "

 

 

now...that would be interesting to see...lol

[jgeorge11]

I had a suggestion for 2014 shoot out races at the first race we draw a chip for are starting position in the heat races like we do now but the rest of the races the points leaders start there heat in the back but just the heat races to make it better racing to me it would make it more interesting to watch what does everybody else think

 

Stephan: I like it lets hear from others, my only thought is what do you do with onetimers that only race to defend their home track?

[Jamie]

The STXSSS website has been updated with the new version of rules. They are in PDF format and can be download. The press release is here with more information.

[DirtRacer9s]

"No roller cams. Must pull 15 lbs. of vacuum at 1000 rpm "

 

 

now...that would be interesting to see...lol

 

 

What do you mean AJ?

[dancer52]

"No roller cams. Must pull 15 lbs. of vacuum at 1000 rpm "

 

 

now...that would be interesting to see...lol

 

 

What do you mean AJ?

 

 

Vacuum is measured in inches..not pounds...now..boost...you could measure 15 pounds of that...lol

[Danielsen Motorsports]

good catch thanks

[DirtRacer9s]

Ya didn't see that either.

[Danielsen Motorsports]

Keep em coming guys sooner we work through the small details the quicker we can have them rock solid.

[03Eracer]

correct me if i am wrong but i thought the shootout was suppose to be about running your track rules and seeing if you can hang with cars from other tracks. making a rule package for the shootout just doesn't seem to me like it is as appealing to run in the shoot out,i thought we ran our rules at the track home or away and that was it i dont think adding weight for intakes or not running the tires you have will work.i feel if you want a bunch of cars to run leave it be that makes it allot more fun then having two sets of rules to run by.

[Danielsen Motorsports]

The reason why we had 5 sets of rules over the years is because when we started they were vastly different among each track. Non of the tracks wanted to change for the better or worst. We simply got a bunch of cars and drivers together to put on a race. From a series teching standpoint it made it very difficult to tech cars and very confusing to someone wanting to possibly race in the series. They saw a wide range of looks and rule packages just making it even more confusing. Now with some tracks closing and some new ones that have opened we have been lucky in a sence to get rules and tracks somewhat working together. I can promise you many more cars chose not to race in the series then have because of the different set of rules and them not wanting to take time to learn what its all about. Now regardless if its a shootout race or not drivers will be able to go to another track on their off weeks or rainouts if they desire too. Many of these tracks host their own big races at the end of the year and to compete you had to conform to their rules which meant replacing not allowed parts and having to stock pile parts for different tracks. Limited mods have the luctury of going to pretty much any track they want and race with no changes. Cotton Bowl Speedway competitors are the least effected if at all with this coming change and it is coming. We wanted to get these rules out early as possible to give us a chance to massage them if need be on details. We have already started that process. As a driver I welcome the opportunity to run at tracks with no changes. That gets old fast when you do it enough or take the risk of upsetting others when you beat them using other type parts. One thing for sure no track in the area has outstanding car counts in the street stock class, nobody. However there is a bunch out there by giving them the opportunity to run multiple tracks and level the playing field at the same time we should expect nothing but positives. Our attention will soon move toward purses for next year and figure out a way to help tracks and drivers with bigger purses for everyone involved. Hope these sheds some light on the direction we are taking the shootout in.

[Danielsen Motorsports]

clarified shock and body rules alittle better. Let me know if a rule isnt clear or needs to be spelt out better.

[Justafan4]

I understand the shootout is geared for the dirt cars. How much would an asphalt car have to change to race. With most asphalt tracks running a limited schedule there are alot of cars sitting idle til their next race. Just a question.

[BobbyJack]

LOOKING GOOD KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

BOBBY JACK

[Danielsen Motorsports]

I understand the shootout is geared for the dirt cars. How much would an asphalt car have to change to race. With most asphalt tracks running a limited schedule there are alot of cars sitting idle til their next race. Just a question.

 

Well not sure but AJ and couple others prooved last week going from dirt to asphalt doesnt seem to be a big deal maybe its not going the other direction. I know we have been pitched the idea of adding an asphalt race at the end of the year for the shootout at SAS the last year and a half. I like the concept I just dont know what kind of money it would take to get those off the fence to actually do it. My guess is alot $$$$ to make it worth everyones effort.