Modified20 Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Has there been anymore considerations for sanctioning the Modified Class moving forward? In my opinion car count has been lacking due to the outlaw rules. the class needs to be cost competitve class and the cars will come out again. Just my 2Cents Big Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACENRANDY Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 WORD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Mike, that subject has been sliced, diced, hashed, mashed.......and all the other adjectives that Waffle House uses..... It isn't going to happen, and now because of that several guys have sold their(IMCA) stuff already. Since HOT cancelled early the possibility was there to pick up car from the Austin/Killeen/GRK area that normally would have raced at HOT tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8G RACING FAMILY Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 WORD WORD WORD NO ITS JUST THE BEGINING OF THE SEASON THEY WILL GET MORE NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modified20 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 As long as the track is not sanctioned they might pick up a couple...(not me)...The current rules do not favor a competitive race. the outlaw cars have a much greater advantage, and I'm not going to waste my time, equipment and money without have a reasonable chance to win. By the way there are plenty of cars sitting around that could be ready to race under IMCA rules and be competitve. Just My Quarter, costs more than 2 cents its way out of reach due to the economy. Not SO Big Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldguy Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 There are no cars sitting around San Antonio that could be raced IMCA. There are 2 forsale but the rest have been mostly didmantled and they didn't race IMCA before. I was told this was the reason for the change to outlaw,no cars. I intend to race outlaw or IMCA whatever. My issue is , do I have a chance of paying to get in from the purse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 do I have a chance of paying to get in oldguy....they'll always let you pay your $40 driver entry fee to get in. Hey, I hear that you and gone with the win will be running for a track championship at another track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modified20 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Here is a search on Racing Junk.com for 200 mile from SA, Plenty of legal IMCA cars\\... http://www.racingjunk.com/search?action=do...mp;resultsPP=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redd35 Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Just asking but what was the average car count with imca mods. I havent been there in a few years because of family, so i have no say on which way to go.Personally i like imca rules better ,without the claim,{I dont know of anyone running a 500 motor in last 20 years,}.I am planning on running up there a few times this year either way.Also not fond of having to run a certain wheel because they pay imca.But I will try to make it on weekends that I will have time to work on car saturday to get ready for corpus. Weekends we don not race i should be there.P S congratulations on being little mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Eddy, to answer your question.....back when Joe/Frank were operating the track they averaged about 20 IMCA Mods. A lot has happened with things since then....which I won't go into...but sure you know anyway. Last year it was only about 10/night. This years "Outlaw" count is starting the same. It's just a swap of these guys for those guys. The claim is NOT about running a $500 motor....but keeping the playing field level so (usually) the majority of racers can be competitive, and not feel(real or percieved) out horse-dollared. Again, a subject we've beat to death. There are guys that have quit/retired/sold thier stuff/don't show up because they don't feel they have a fighting chance against aluminum heads, quick changes, etc. As for wheels, you do have a point......but correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it only about $4-5 more per wheel? Granted, if enough get torn up during a race season it adds up. I would think some of that gets made back up in IMCA track points payout, contingency awards, etc. Yes??? I posted a list a while back of all the money/awards/parts that guys from around here recieved for their efforts last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac70 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 how many of these "outlaw" cars are actually running quick changes and aluminum heads in south Texas. And What heads are they running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8G RACING FAMILY Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 IMCA MUST BE LARGE ENOUGH CAUSE ITS HARD TO BUY ONE WITHOUT A IMCA STICKER ON IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldguy Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Reb, I am going to run at the other track too. It's strickley a money issue, at either place. It doesn't matter the number of cars as long as they don't come race., and they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redd35 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Eddy, to answer your question.....back when Joe/Frank were operating the track they averaged about 20 IMCA Mods. A lot has happened with things since then....which I won't go into...but sure you know anyway. Last year it was only about 10/night. This years "Outlaw" count is starting the same. It's just a swap of these guys for those guys. The claim is NOT about running a $500 motor....but keeping the playing field level so (usually) the majority of racers can be competitive, and not feel(real or percieved) out horse-dollared. Again, a subject we've beat to death. There are guys that have quit/retired/sold thier stuff/don't show up because they don't feel they have a fighting chance against aluminum heads, quick changes, etc. As for wheels, you do have a point......but correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it only about $4-5 more per wheel? Granted, if enough get torn up during a race season it adds up. I would think some of that gets made back up in IMCA track points payout, contingency awards, etc. Yes??? I posted a list a while back of all the money/awards/parts that guys from around here recieved for their efforts last year. All the points money is paid by the track to imca then imca gives same amount back to drivers . They just get to keep the interest its earned over te year. I know but what about if we get national points money. Ok maybe one person from south texas will get any extra. To finish near the top in national standing you need to race about 50 times a year and win 30 of them. i only know of two people capable of doing that around here and they dont race imca consitantly enough. They go to races that in one night pay what imca pays for a national champion. And the only thing a quick change would do for me is rob horsepower and save money on buying 3rd members every year.As for aluminum heads. I have one pair they are on my truck itdosent makea hole lot of horsepower. All that said, yes we do need to do something about motors. I must have missed the list. Was my name on it i finished third in our points.Maybe they are sending me something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac70 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 some things never change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Point taken on the number of guys that could compete for a national championship....but it was a little more than you think.....10k for the Nat. title, 2,500 for Reg. champ, plus HOT and Texas Thunder points money(close to a grand), a set of EQ heads, complete rear end from Speedway, 500 from dynotech and 100 from Kevko and probably some others(didn't read through all the contingencies this time). Greg even got money for Reg. points, plus I-37 and STS track points...and a nice shiny new carburetor. Yes, your name was on it too......check your PM's. I tried to search for the list and the search engine on here sux......and I didn't save it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyT66 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 In the sport mods last year JOHNNY got almost TWO THOUSAND for the two championships and finishing four in the national point,and about FIFTEEN HUNDRED in AWARD CERTIFICATES from the IMCA deal.. Then I37 paid some for the championship...Frank t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaswicked Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 jmo imca wont make a differance of that many cars..... plain and simple and everyone hear knows what brings the most cars for any class.... big PURSES... dont get me wrong either cause i cant win those kinda of purses cause i suck at driving and of coarse under powered.. but big purses bring lots of cars....i know tracks cant afford it and thats one thing that will keep some classes car counts down..... big money , brings big and more cars, which brings more fans, which brings more money for track.... uncle had a track in tennesse.... there where 4 tracks with in 1hr from him and he always had the biggst crowed .... he told me the secret that he used... big purses with some guarnteed payback for all racers that race the feature, cheaper pit passes and entry fees, and bump the gate for fans a buck more and keep food and beer at a decent price...... he would drag all the cars in with purses and cheap pitpasses and along with them came the fans.........like i said jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelracewriter Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 wicked.....big purses DON'T necessarily mean bigger car counts. They were paying $1,000 to win in the Modifieds and still only got 11, but your right about paying back through the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaswicked Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 wicked.....big purses DON'T necessarily mean bigger car counts. They were paying $1,000 to win in the Modifieds and still only got 11, but your right about paying back through the field. thats not really a big purse jmo... i think around a 2000 is a big purse..... i know lots are gonna say 1000 is.... the big purse has to be consistant too.... cant go by one night of racing.. if some one wants to have the biggest turn out and best track for racing gonna have to spend money... i know moneys tight and i couldnt offer that either but someones gonna have to stick neck out and give it a shot if they want the best around..... with no sacrifce comes no victory...jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redd35 Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Point taken on the number of guys that could compete for a national championship....but it was a little more than you think.....10k for the Nat. title, 2,500 for Reg. champ, plus HOT and Texas Thunder points money(close to a grand), a set of EQ heads, complete rear end from Speedway, 500 from dynotech and 100 from Kevko and probably some others(didn't read through all the contingencies this time). Greg even got money for Reg. points, plus I-37 and STS track points...and a nice shiny new carburetor. Yes, your name was on it too......check your PM's. I tried to search for the list and the search engine on here sux......and I didn't save it. Reb i did get the imca points money.That money came from Owen sending it to them every week.some people may not know this but everyweek the promoter sends imca a check based on number cars entered.At the end of season Imca devides this money that track has sent and sends it to drivers .So basically sts paid my points money .those guys up north that got nearly 1000.had more cars everynight. And Johnny i think we were talking about modified imca money not limited.You guys did great this year but its because you guys ran alot of races at alot of tracks. Thats alot of traveling wich costs alot of money.And evetryone says imca is supposed to be cheap.You can when pretty good money if you can afford to race three times a weekend everyweekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldguy Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I looked through the "racing junk" posting and one of the two cars for sale was on there. All of the others were maybe within 200 miles but nearly all were at the edge. Only 1 car from anywhere closer than Austin. Like I said, there are no cars around this area parked and IMCA ready to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txhotmod Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I looked through the "racing junk" posting and one of the two cars for sale was on there. All of the others were maybe within 200 miles but nearly all were at the edge. Only 1 car from anywhere closer than Austin. Like I said, there are no cars around this area parked and IMCA ready to use. I can name 4 right now 20 sbg 25 sbg 37 pittaway 99 rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Not to hijack this thread but there seems to be an open discussion on IMCA racing at HIll Country on their board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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