chipmunk Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 a few of the early tssa cars winged and non winged [resized by Nick Holt, 12/16/07] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbarnes Posted December 15, 2007 Report Share Posted December 15, 2007 Very very cool, can't wait to see more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmunk Posted December 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 more sprints [resized by Nick Holt, 12/17/07] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 That's a great pic of Brad Doty in the Coors Light 18 when he ran with the World of Outlaws... Too bad he got hurt; he could wheel a car with the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakdad Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 The first pic of the "1" car shows the "39" car in the background. Anybody know who drove/owned the "39"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmunk Posted December 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 its not 39 its 30 and im sorry i dont remember who drove it but do remember it as 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakdad Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 oops, My bad................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GINGERBREADMAN Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Jakdad....the #30 car is a midget....painted in the colors that Al Burns' car carried. At about the time this picture was taken it could of been Elton Porter driving but I'm sure that Tex44 can tell you what you wanna know..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racevw112 Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Where was that picture taken? Wrong color of dirt for Big H. Could it be Devil's Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbarnes Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Looks like turn 1 & 2 of Heart of Texas, isn't that the pit checkin in the background? The other picture of the #1 on the black clay with the red handrails in the background could be HOT also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racevw112 Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Hard to say on the pictures. Just keep them coming, love to see all the old Big H pictures and such. I used to sale "Speed Sport News" and the Dirt Track Journal for my mom at Big H. Even helped with the fireworks show on a 4th of July event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakdad Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Bet if I had been driving that car, I would know what it is............. Everybody gets old, nobody has to grow up................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrettracecars(grc) Posted December 23, 2007 Report Share Posted December 23, 2007 that is not hot speedway in that picture. only pits behind turns 1 &2 & woo never came to waco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Big H when it was dirt! Enjoyed racing there in sprints. Promoter Brad Pounds (I think that was his name) would give us $200 against our winnings to tow from Dallas. to race there. Ran a sprint feature there one night that was shorten due the flagman could not see the cars on the backstraight, due to FOG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racevw112 Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Do not ever remember Big H being any other color of dirt then red clay. Agree! I think it's the Bowl long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmunk Posted December 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 the picture yall keep asking about is from big h it is in the pits the dirt was a lil different than the track surface. marc yes his name was brad pounds my bud is brads nephew brad and pat pounds are doing well saw them not to long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbarnes Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Do not ever remember Big H being any other color of dirt then red clay. Some people still think of HMP as Big H with Asphalt. And I am sure it's not the Bowl, Never been any building above the cushion. Definately not the Bowl, especially in 1987, which was when Doty drove the Silver Bullet sled. Turn 1 and 2 Turn 3 and 4 Front straight and infield Pretty much hasn't changed since the moved from across Lawson Rs in 1972 when Lanny Edwards took over. The original Devil's bowl was down on South Buckner behind the Drive in. It was built in an old rock pit and had White Caliche Rock walls, when you hit them it was a done deal. Before that everyone raced down at the Fairgrounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 MFBARNES, What is the date of those Devil's Bowl pics? I haven't been there since 2002, and it looks different from even then. They didn't have the fencing on the back side. In the 80's, everyone remembers the big trees on the backstraight, and that big generator on the front straight. And also the mud hole that was the parking lot before they paved it. They took the trees out in the 90's, and it shocked us as to just how close the airport was. And the noise was better when they moved the generator down off turn 4. I still have vivid memories of Mark Kinser running a 13.5 in a sprint car in late 1998. The fast guys never lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97car Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Tom in the pictures it looks like they lowered the back straight since I was there last,and the generater was in the middle of the pits back then as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Lanny moved the generator up off Turn 4, the back straight is still higher than the front. Up hill in turn 1 & 2, down hill in 3 & 4. The trees have all been removed on the back straight (that God, I got tired of landing in them) and Lanny is building a pit area off the back straight. Well, he has been working the dirt for several years to move the pits? LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txtom Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Ya'll may have a better eye for it, but it appears to me that they have lowered the angle of the corner banking. And the back stretch does appear lower. But that place looks great, will have to get up there this year. Marc, I watched several guys get into those trees; one year, we noticed a couple guys standing just beyond them. After a sprinter got into the trees, and parts went flying, they found them some new spots to watch from. I have been to about 35 or 40 dirt tracks, but the Bowl is still my favorite, hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc200mph Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Yep Tom Been there, trees that is. Have video of me taking the Belmire #17 Sprinter into the trees after doing end over end 5 times first..OUCH! Need to come up to my place, pull out the old locked video cabnet and watch old racing footage one day! Devils Bowl is the fastest track in Texas! 430 ci small block, 1600 lb sprint car, flat footing all the way around the Bowl, never lifting! Still the most exciting rush I have ever gotten! WooHoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbarnes Posted December 24, 2007 Report Share Posted December 24, 2007 Those pictures are a couple months old. Lanny has dumped a ton of money in the track. He's trying to bring big time racing back to Dallas. When the WoO stopped coming he first had an attitude towards it, then decided to do something about it. He's going to do for the bowl what Stewart did for Big E. It's really a crying shame because Lanny took a chance on a dishes salesman named Ted Johnson and the rest is history. WoO got their first ever sanctioned start at the Bowl. He gave all the guys who could compete due to the politics of USAC a place to throw the rulebook out the door and RWYB. May the hand with the biggest testicles and the fastest sled win. Ted Johnson gave all he had to make the World of Outlaws the premier dirt racing series in the world. Before the World of Outlaws started, he would actually pay some of the drivers to come to a racetrack and he’d just be in the stands watching. Then he decided to be a promoter and he did it right. He lived out of the back of a dualie pickup the first few years, pulling a goose-neck enclosed trailer full of t-shirts and stuff to promote his product, he was a born salesman. He allowed guys to make a darn good living doing what most of us do for free, and in the process brought sprint car racing to the big time. If you think about it, before nascar got as big as it is now, there was a time that the WoO was right up there with them and the NHRA. [resized by Nick Holt, 12/24/07] Here's your first ever WoO race at the Bowl and your eventual winner in the lead passing the Wolfman with 2 laps to go to win the forst show. You can see the trees and yaupons in the background y'all spoke of. Didn't take this kid long to get in the groove though, one the first WoO at Eldora Speedway, May 21, 1978. And 543 wins and 30 years later he is still the King of Dirt. Some people do not realize how dominating he's been over the last 30 years. 30 seasons and he's won 20 season championships. He's rode that famous high cushion line to more wins than most people have run races. Petty may be the King in NASCAR but Kinser is King of the Dirt. Hands down there is no legitimate argument for that fact. In 1987 he won 46 races in route to his 8th title. That's 46 features against , Doty in his prime, Swindell in his prime, Wolfgang, you name 'em, Kinser won almost half the seasons races that year. Unbelievable. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for the Devil's Bowl. Raced many many races their. My dad ran down on Buckner, and out at the Fairgrounds. Lanny has always been real good to me, he'll give you the shirt off his back if he likes you. I owe a lot to him and Charles "Smiley" Sitton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97car Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I don't remember Devils Bowl moving from across the road, and I grew up at the current location, however the oval in the picture does have me curious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfbarnes Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 That lower picture clay looks awfully red to be the Devils Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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