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  1. I hope this becomes a reality and the management is open minded enough to realize success will come with INVOLVEMENT of the masses, not just the elite. There's already private clubs for racers that want to show off their shinny stuff. Racing is not about the race, its about the SHOW. Remember it started as only a part of Country Fairs as an added show. A successful promoter will be a professional promoter, not unlike Vince McMann who sells fake fighting all over the world with great success. He creates a story with every entrant and every entrant plays a role. Their independent success depends on how well they sell their story. In my opinion every car needs to be a character with its own story. None of us are professional racers but we do create a show that we expect people to pay to watch. Unfortunately racing has become too pompous where the lesser entrants are looked down on and scoffed at. Shame because most of the "lesser" teams indeed have an interesting story relating to how and why they got there. Yet too many promoters overlook their plight when that could draw interest to many. In short, its my opinion that a successful track needs to have a great promoter, not necessarily a great race director. Speed does not do it all anymore. Drama never gets old. Pay attention to the shows that draw big attendance in todays world, not the same old show that cant sell tickets anymore. Your drivers and crew are the show, not the cars. Don't overlook any of them, each one has a following. Don't try to sell their possessions, sell their PASSION ! Share it with the audience. So everyone make fun of me now. My show is no longer interesting to promoters. Shame.
  2. Any new track to be successful is going to need a new approach. Doing the same thing that's been around for the last 20 years did not work for the tracks now closed. A new show that involves more people will work. Todays money is in the numbers, not the gifted. The most successful promoters I have raced for understood this.
  3. 2019 Nascar

    Nick, I think the biggest reason a person becomes an EX racer is because of finances. Second would be time, then things like age, kids and in Texas the so many miles between tracks. McAllen had a huge family of racers and the Valley had some of the best drivers in the state. Most are EX racers now because of at least one of these reasons. Has nothing to do with bashing, unlike how NASCAR is abused here. A non involved fan is more knowledgeable with NASCAR than any local racing. Seeing other "racers" bash it is cause for wondering if racing is an accepted sport. But believe me NASCAR still has a great following. In spite of our biased opinions. As the leader of a racing forum I would think you would support ALL forms of motorsports, politics notwithstanding . Not the case evidently. But its your forum to lead. Like Bobby Maupin often says...... "the view never changes" .
  4. 2019 Nascar

    Its not NASCAR's fault Texas has so many closed tracks. I don't know the real reason, only what I have experienced. Texas is not really an oval track community, its more about High School football and sports. I think that's because more people are involved personally that at the "local" track. That being said, racing has only a finite population yet many promoters are still looking for the magic that will bring all those "new" fans and competitors when the real answer is under their feet. I have watched serious racing families leave the sport primarily because they become "undesirables" due to structural changes of the politics. Loosing these families reduces the potential fan and participant base yet I have never seen ANY promoter actively attempt to recover these people. As a racing fan I would rather watch NASCAR than ANY local racing where I don't know anyone. So would the "average" fan. I believe this is because NASCAR makes a huge effort to promote the identity of their drivers. Meanwhile local tracks support their "correct" racers while shunning anyone that dares to be different or opposing views. So what we have is a few private clubs trying to get fans to appreciate their affluence, thus preaching to the choir., while wanting the product being sold to be responsible for the production costs. And also trying to sell everywhere the exact same show. Almost 100% race your Chevrolet and show off how much you have or pain you can absorb. Dinosaur designs that have no reflection of the cars on the road today, thus no identification with the average working class person. Those people are the ones that appreciate cars. There's no way to identify local racing with NASCAR, even the unsuccessful driver could afford to buy most local tracks. Texas people as a rule don't make the money other states have, thus we have less to spend as a State for recreation. The solution as I see it is not to only host those with great resources but create a place where a little goes a long way and use the numbers game to create profit. The old adage "build it and they will come" does not work with a person with a family making $400 a week but is expected to spend $100 or more to bring his family to race and watch. Or especially spend $60 to bring the family only to watch other flaunt their resources. Yes even NASCAR is making an attempt to reduce ticket costs to attract more families. Its easier to blame NASCAR that find new ideas. I'm watching L87 growing with absolutely NO expensive cars but instead hosts a venue where a working stiff CAN get involved in the sport. Other tracks treat them like a necessary diversion. With 50 entries last race it will be interesting to see where this goes. So go ahead an mock NASCAR and hope it is destroyed because its not how your own experiences are reflected. I personally have spent 49 years of being involved in racing without any budget other than race winnings. Like the movie 6 Pack, the last race paid for the next one. Now all that is gone but I don't hate NASCAR only because they are still going strong. Instead I'm looking for a way for a poor guy to continue with the sport or will another racing family fade away in the distance. The population is shrinking. I'm curious how many people are EX racers and why. I believe this is the place to start. JMO, as always.
  5. Pit stall ?

    I don't know what most think but taking away Hamlin's pit choice to aid Bush win a Championship was a chicken crap deal for Denny. I'm hearing this is Denny's last race and he got screwed. I'm betting Bush does not win because karma usually even things out. If he does the black mark is there. Now NASCAR is trying to improve their show and most things are an improvement. I like the chase thing, its kind of like qualifying races at a big show like the Modified Nationals were at McAllen. The last race has the 4 best qualifiers running for the Championship. and one race to win it. All big races have only one winner and NASCAR has equaled the competitors better than any other venue. For the casual fan its a show that is not already determined the winner like so many times the old system afforded. Just like the truck race nobody could predict the Champion, again decided by a single race. I picked Sauder because of his experience but his team gave him a turd so he had no chance even though he was a factor all year. It was great Moffatt won as an underfunded team, gives everyone hope its possible. Now Custer (00) has taken the p[ole for today's race and has not necessarily been the dominate team all year. On a side note its great the Cup guys are not involved, this makes the teams more equal. Should be a great race too. NASCAR is trying to fuel the feud between Truex and Logano but that out as Truex is running for the Championship and cannot waste it on a "revenge" deal. It would be cool to end this team on the top. Harvick might be a favorite because he took over for Earnhardt. I don't think Bush will win because karma seems to sneak in sometimes Taking Hamlin's earned pit stall will bit him, I think. And nobody like Lagano but he had luck and some skill. So who knows who will be the 2018 Cup Champion ? Nobody knows and that's the story. So all you NASCAR haters can tell everyone reading how much racing sucks and still try to lure casual fans to your own personal racing deal How's that working out ? You guys making a good profit at your local track ? Or are you actually funding their operations? NASCAR drivers don't have to pay to park or enter the pits. Plus they make a few dollars. And the Cup guys have the kind of car all of you would love to have if you had the best everything money could buy. Snubbing them sounds like sour grapes. Don't sour the sport in general by snubbing the top tier of the sport itself. JMO.
  6. Now with all this they are trying to do sounds more like a deal to get public money like COT got. Using the passion racers have to gain support. I'm not holding my breath now. I'm afraid there's not enough support to operate 2 tracks, has not worked in the past. Hope I'm wrong.
  7. Sport compact for sale $2100

    It would be cool to have Thunder Cars again. Its was very successful. Now days 4 cyl cars are only mini bombers at the few tracks that have them. This car would do great at Rose Bowl in Tyler TX.
  8. When

    When is the next show ?
  9. Congrats to Jamie Garner in the #33 Sport Compact for the Championship win. He proved an old guy in a VW can still get it done. Volkswagen has won EVERY feature race in the Compacts since Oct 2017. And Jamie knows his way around a track
  10. Nascar Martinsville

    40 cars racing on a 1/2 mile track with very little crashing is an amazing feat. Where else does this happen ?
  11. Nascar Martinsville

    I enjoyed this race like I enjoy all NASCAR races. This one was better than most , I wish we could have seen all the action because it was all over. Great job NASCAR, that's what getting back to grass roots racing is all about. Don't worry about the whiners, they don't driver race cars anyway. I bet real drivers appreciated how these NASCAR drivers handle their cars and manage their cars for a long run. I know for myself at asphalt tracks I have had to wait many laps to make a pass. When the car in front of you wiggles you know the time is near. These drivers don't make the rules or pick the tracks but do an amazing job of car control. Our local tracks are lucky if 2 drivers can do 5 side by side laps without crashing. These cats do it for over 3 hours. Wish I was one of them. Now to NASCAR. Get more short tracks on the schedule. Make the cars tougher. Let the drivers go for it. And a Flying Carlucci occasionally cant hurt. Just keep it televised.
  12. Talladega

    Well I don't know about the money thing but I do know there is no local track anywhere near where I live. At least no oval track. We do have a huge drag racing community and mud trucks are a big deal as well. I just happen to prefer oval track racing and NASCAR provides that for me and a lot of other people around here. There's not much on TV about local tracks. That does not mean I love everything NASCAR does. Most tracks are too big and the cars are too fragile for real grass roots racing. More like airplanes, they are victims of aerodynamics way too much. This could explain why venues like Bristol and Martinsville have the bigger followings. You have heard the saying "rubbing is racing" and indeed in the early days it was. But today a simple rub can eliminate a drivers chances because wind is deflected wrong or a fender rubs a tire to blow. No rubbing, no racing ? NASCAR incorrectly thinks just speed in enough to keep people on the edge of their seats and possibly live it might. But watch what happens when a leader for an hour or so suddenly has an issue and a couple of others catch up and the race begins. The announcers ask "will he move him over" Everyone wants to know the answer. 3 1/2 hours of buzzing engines for a few minutes od suspense. Well, its worth it for me, I don't care about people chasing balls. Now my idea would be put some bumpers and reinforcement in the bodies and let them rub and race. Slow them down if needed, forget the air and let engines and suspensions be what the drivers control to get the lead. Old school. If you want to race airplanes, go to the airport. The reason dirt track racing is so popular at some areas is it IS contact racing. Could be the same at asphalt tracks, if fact it WAS at CC Speedway a decade or two ago. Wake up NASCAR, you have lost your roots. This is my bashing NASCAR. A suggestion how to improve. Hopefully I'm not stupid enough to " kill the man with the money" and have to learn drag racing instead. The diggers have already figured this racing deal out.
  13. Talladega

    I find it amazing how so many people get on here and preach about not bashing a track but at the same time cut our top tier events to shreds. That's so hypocritical. I like NASCAR, its a pleasant diversion to my everyday life. I agree with toyotatim, if you don't like it don't watch. Stay with your local tracks that are only a private club for members only to show off how much money they can blow. No wonder racing has lost so much appeal. It has nothing for the average fan. So preach to the choir, leave us NASCAR fans to at least one thread.
  14. I-37 Speedway updates 10/6/18

    Today is the first time to see this thread. I would like to clear something up. The DQs last race had less to do with the cars and everything to do with the class itself. Like at every track, the mini stocks (regardless of what name is used) are full of passion but most lack the resources to be involved with store bought cars. That passion boils over and usually lands in the lap of the top person running the facility Now consider that the upper management already has distain for this series and the noise being made by them its no surprise the top man had enough and came down from the office to "show" the officials how to handle things. Although my car was accepted by part of management as being an invited car it did not fit the exact interpretation being used that night. My car was built for Corpus under their Sport Compact rules which allowed for front and rear loops. Nothing hidden, I asked for and was granted permission to race my car as is by management and teck. Was checked at teck pad over 30 times and 2 annual inspections. The only changes required were a new window net and seat belts as 1999 was not considered up to date. No different that how the Pro Sedans allowed invited non series cars to compete with some basic restrictions. Now it would be silly to think nobody noticed my braced radiator support until 2 years later. Nay it was not the car but actually the complaining many of the members of the series irritated top management to the point he made this deliration to shut us up. Over the years we have argued and fought publically at every track we have raced at. Nothing new about that, we are our own worse enemies and Hiteck you know that as well as anybody. Its in the archives if you want to look it up. Now on a personal note, when told I was not allowed to race my car anymore,(I could not change it to meet their standards) I was done. Now me, like the Pro Sedans have no home. In Texas mini stocks are defined as mini bombers and that series is doing fine. I don't agree how that track carved into that nights lineup and DQed 2 of the top 6 cars at the top of the points 2 races before the end but its their right. My point is, I did not go there to cheat. A 420 mile round trip is too costly to risk. Me and the 57 were just tools being used to clean house. The problem is, and even Nick would agree, people complaining. Weather on public media, in personal messages or by phone, if you irritate top management eventually you spur a response that might not be what you expect. So race your cars, not your mouths least you become a tumbleweed. Nick, this is not bashing.
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