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    Actually, HiTech, that wall was reconfigured several years ago from an even more precarious configuration.

     

    Many of the tracks up North that use the "no walls in the turns" layout partially solved the issue of how/where to start the front straight wall by providing an off camber paved area - maybe 20-30 wide - that starts where the wall begins and is avoided like the plague by drivers since it's off-camber by several degrees. It does give that 20-30 feet of space to brake, spin, or whatever, before you hit the wall.

     

    A wall is a wall no matter where it is and one of the great features of CTS is that there are no walls in the turns where most folks get in trouble and a nice dirt banking on the back straight.

     

    Nick

    Sometimes a wall might help out... This was from the IMCA Supernationals in Boone a few weeks back... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NruMdEAJc9Y

     

    In Car View...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoshZxJmkUo


  2. Actually, HiTech, that wall was reconfigured several years ago from an even more precarious configuration.

     

    Many of the tracks up North that use the "no walls in the turns" layout partially solved the issue of how/where to start the front straight wall by providing an off camber paved area - maybe 20-30 wide - that starts where the wall begins and is avoided like the plague by drivers since it's off-camber by several degrees. It does give that 20-30 feet of space to brake, spin, or whatever, before you hit the wall.

     

    A wall is a wall no matter where it is and one of the great features of CTS is that there are no walls in the turns where most folks get in trouble and a nice dirt banking on the back straight.

     

    Nick

    Good to see that Claire is alright Im sure it wasnt a fun ride...

     

    Sometimes a wall might help out... This was from the IMCA Supernationals in Boone a few weeks back... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NruMdEAJc9Y


  3. The only way the day is going to get shortened is by reducing the number of classes that run on a given night... In my opinon there are really only 2 feasible ways to do that... Either drop/combine classes or split the classes up and run more nights... CBS Runs 5 sometimes 6 classes a night. Starts at 7 ends around 11-12... Thats hot laps, heats, and features. Avg car counts are about 80-100 cars... Only negative is the long drive home so far... If you cut down the classes in half the day's can be started at 5 instead of 11a and you can run heat races instead of qualifying each week... More fun for the fans less time in the heat for the drivers better for all involved...


  4. I dont know how much truth there is in this but I had read somewhere in the last few days that Bowman has been like that for alot more than just a few years its been like that for generations. When that kind of fluff gets into the everyday mindset of the driver the promoter and the fan it becomes nearly impossible to turn back the clock so to speak. That track draws fans because they know at some point in the night someone is going to do something stupid, its seems very few are there to see side by side racing. The drivers know that apparently the track doesn't discourage those actions it because it puts butts in the seats and money in their wallet.

     

    An example of this even out here tho is what do you remember more for SAS fans John Heil throwing a fire extinguisher at another racecar on the track or when Steve Osborne ran his first race (I think won) at SAS after recovering from his incident? For Kyle which do you remember better Ausin Self getting chased around the track by Tommy Grimes under caution after an ontrack incident or watching Joe Aramendia win a race with a flat left front tire for the last few laps? For Houston even though rather new on the minds what many would call an intentional wrecking of Taylor Harris or watching someone like Mason Teague or Zach Knowles or Joe Aramendia ect... start near the back and work their way to the front for a good finish or win.

     

    I think the question for a lot of people should be what should be done to keep your track from having the Bowman Grey mentality besides saying I'm not going to show up there because....

     

    .02


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    ..and that was my 1st post on the 'new' system. what is a warning point and why don't i have some. i might have to work on that nick.

    I'm trying to figure out how to disable that "warning points" thing. We're all adults here.

     

    Nick

     

    Well most of us anyhow...


  6. I am pretty sure that it has happened before and if I am correct it happened at the old Alamo Dragway in either the late 80's early 90's but there was no catch fence in the way and someone sitting in the stands was killed. I believe that was the first fatality at the track but not the last... I never heard what the cause was but I seem to remember it happened at the start line...


  7. Agree 100% with what Cory said. FWIW, at Slinger Super Speedway, any driver not holding his line is black flagged. For those that have never been there or heard of it. Slinger is a 1/4 HIGH banked asphalt track where the SLMs turn 11.25 second laps. They have 2 wide racing every night. It is an awsome place.

     

    If I remember correctly the flagman holds up a little sign while pointing the black flag. Sign I thought says 1 Line... Saw a 100 Lap SLM race there last year and had a blast. I think they ran something like 60 laps door to door and I think there was only I bad caution. Rest were just guys that spun on their own... Awesome track...


  8. Having driven with a mirror and without. I sometimes felt the mirror was a crutch especially when I started. When I went to dirt and took off the mirror I was worried less about what was behind me and was more aware of what was in front and both sides and could 'feel' when someone was on the outside or inside of me if they were not in view by listening for them. Ever since I have not used a mirror. Its interesting tho because its definately a dirt vs. asphalt deal just about everyone on asphalt it seems wants a mirror and most dirt racers that I know would rather race without one no matter the class.


  9. Nothing earth shaking about the changes, but I am a little confused by one of them. What's the rational for requiring open motors to run a 6 series MSD? They don't run a chip and they are "open" motors.

     

    Wonder if it has to do with being able to test for TC within the box or changing resistance inside the box to get a few more RPM's no matter what chip is and knowing where to look on that box vs a different brand?


  10. To me I'll take a 30 lap race with a full field that runs side by side over a caution filled race. Not something you see much down around these parts. For instance I went 2 weeks ago to La Crosse Wi for their Oktoberfast race. Over 3 days there were about 6 or so different classes that I saw. Other than the ARCA Midwest trucks who had 15 trucks I think all of the other races had well over 30 cars and in some instances upwards of 60 for the Big 8 SLM class and 70 for the ARCA Midwest SLM's. For the 3 days I may have saw 3-5 hard wrecks on a 5/8 mile track about the same width as SAS but without the banking. During most of the races and especially the features you saw side by side racing usually from 2nd on back to 12th with alot of give and take. That was prob some of the best racing I have seen in a long time. Maybe even better than the Snowball... Now I personally think the talent in this area is on par with those guys up there but mentally its a different story. That may be because they race with each other 4-5 times a week where down here you may not see the same guys for 2 to 3 weeks. Anyhow I would love to not have to drive 19 hours one way to watch racing like that but it is what it is...

     

    The better question to ask is what can the racing community as a whole do to make racing better besides putting dirt on virtually all the asphalt tracks around here... :lol:


  11. Went to that race last year... Its absolutely the hardest modified race to qualify for the feature that I have seen let alone win... Just in the modifieds there were 30 heats of 10-12 cars... If you were lucky enough to win your heat you made it to the nights qualifying A main... Everyone else goes into lower mains for points towards LCQ lineups... You then need to finish in the top 8 or 9 to make up one of 3 rows in the Big A... I think Wed qualifiers make up the inside Thurs make up the middle and Fri make up the outside... LCQ on Sat for I think 6 remaining spots... This same format is used for most of the classes throughout the week... Last year the I Stocks started 33 cars I believe ran 30 or 40 laps and went Caution free... only 2 cars fell out... One hell of a race... Definitely the best racing vacation I ever took... Better than even going to the Snowball...


  12. Sorry too busy talking to people that want to build and convert cars to decipher that novel of why it won't work that you wrote. We are busy trying to make it happen instead of debating why it won't.

     

    Thanks to everyone that has been burning up Gerald's and my phone today.

     

    Guess time will tell but we are all in

     

    Ps...the bodies will cost about $1600. And shocks are $70 and its a good Integra shock. Just saying.

     

    I hope you prove me wrong. And I hope I am wrong as well. For the tracks sake...


  13. Hope it works out for you but I think its going to be a tough sell once the costs get factored in... Anytime someone was tried to say that they can keep the costs down by making you buying the item only from them usually ends up costing more than anyone thinks. Im wondering how much a roller is going to cost?

     

    Pricing will be out soon but as an example, the savings on just the body is over $500 alone because of bulk purchasing power. Love how we work our butts off to do something to help defray racer costs, design a more modern looking class and then work our butts off to find a $10,000 points fund sponsor to kick it off and the first comments are negative. Lately, that Must mean we are doing something right. lol. :P:lol:

     

    Our goal from the beginning was too keep the cost down as much as possible. Ask anyone involved what my biggest complaint/issue/goal was throughout the whole process. Pretty sure they got sick of hearing it. :blink: Otherwise, it would have ended up with a ton more high dollar, go fast parts in it.

     

    Im sorry that you took my post as being negative I was just trying to be realistic but opinions are like a holes everyone has one.. The reason why you were able to grow the class was because in 2007 there was a plethora of trucks sitting around with hardly a place to race and they were cheap...Now you should be applauded for bringing them back but like Al Gore not creating the internet you didnt start the trucks. You took a viable platform with readily available trucks and ran with it. Economics helped you out. There was a vast supply and you created demand. That was when some people could get a practically get a race ready truck for 5-7K... Now that is basically double or more for a race ready truck. With this new class someone looking to get into the class can't just pickup a used car that's reasonable for them to learn with and race they need a new car because there is no supply no used cars only new cars.

     

    Once again that is fine if someone has the $$$ to spend buying new. You say you save 500 on a body... If its the AR body then your at 2500 just for a body (3k is their listed price).... Shocks? 500-1000 a set? Calipers 400. Cage and frame? Im guessing 1000 prob more if you have to have someone else fabricate it and I think that's being conservative ... Im already at 5k without even trying. I could see a New turnkey car being 15k easy if you don't have a motor and trans that you can swap over from an old car... I would be willing to guess that your aiming for the guys that have cars to be able to swap parts over from one to the other to defray costs. But why would they when they can run those cars at one of the fine dirt tracks (using the term loosely) in the area and spend a lot less money doing it... That last sentence is probably why you don't have that many cars to begin with but that besides the point.

     

    If you look at most asphalt tracks each class you rise through each class doubles in cost. Eco's are a great beginners class with no adjustments and fairly cheap. Hopefully this class will fall closer to the middle of the cost between a Truck and and Eco to be viable. or else you will still have the same problem where guys would rather race in an established class and race the trucks because they are more readily available.

     

    Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Thunder Roadster experiment gone bad... But good luck with it...

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